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    Quote Originally posted by Gedunker View post
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    This is deeply scary: almost all the people who worked on the Exxon valdez spill cleanup are dead according to CNN.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/warni...ow-dead-2010-6

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    Quote Originally posted by Otis View post
    This is deeply scary: almost all the people who worked on the Exxon valdez spill cleanup are dead according to CNN.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/warni...ow-dead-2010-6
    Holy cr*p.

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    Quote Originally posted by JNA View post
    This makes me so sad... I cannot imagine what it must be like for those who live in the area.

    And it gets worse:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AVyw...611&feature=iv
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    HEADLINE:
    Lessons from Exxon Valdez spill have gone unheeded
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews

    HIGHLIGHT:
    History is repeating, say officials who investigated the Valdez, because the lessons of two decades ago remain unheeded.

    "It's disappointing," said 84-year-old Walt Parker, chairman of the Alaska Oil Spill Commission, which made dozens of recommendations for preventing a recurrence. "It's almost as though we had never written the report."

    Marine experts predict that the many panels investigating the Deepwater Horizon blowout -- including a presidential commission that began work this week in New Orleans -- will produce reports with numerous findings that could have been cut and pasted from the 20-year-old report written by Parker's commission or another body that examined the Valdez accident. They also fear those findings may have no more impact than the Valdez conclusions have.
    Just like their response plan.
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    I'm surprised nobody has commented on the uptick in BP stock price. The report I heard was that it was due to a rumored interest in acquisition by...can you guess...that's right...Exxon. Now doesn't that make you feel better.
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    BP: No oil leaking into Gulf from busted well, from Yahoo! News:

    NEW ORLEANS – A tightly fitted cap was successfully keeping oil from gushing into the Gulf of Mexico for the first time in three months, BP said Thursday. The victory — long awaited by weary residents along the coast — is the most significant milestone yet in BP's effort to control one of the worst environmental disasters in U.S. history.

    Kent Wells, a BP PLC vice president, said at a news briefing that oil stopped flowing into the water at 2:25 p.m. CDT after engineers gradually dialed down the amount of crude escaping through the last of three valves in the 75-ton cap...
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    There's still a possibility the pressure could cause a break in the sea floor and start spewing crude again, which would be even harder to clean up until they finish drilling the relief wells next month, but still... it looks promising.
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    Off-topic:
    Is this the first time a thread has been reassigned a third title?

    This ain't over yet, folks. The clean up will last a decade, at the very least, and the Gulf will probably not recover in our lifetimes.

    Because it's free admission to all Florida state parks this Saturday, we're planning on heading out the the beach. We'll file a report.
    Annoyingly insensitive

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    Who changed the title? It just means the oil is not gushing, now we wait so see where the gazillions of gallons already out there goes. "Initial Crisis is Ending": bulls*hit. We are having to ship birds to the east coast, ship endangered species turtle eggs to the east coast. Just because BP MAY have capped the well deosn't mean it's over; the gulf will be recovering for decades.

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    Quote Originally posted by Zoning Goddess View post
    Who changed the title? It just means the oil is not gushing, now we wait so see where the gazillions of gallons already out there goes. "Initial Crisis is Ending": bulls*hit. We are having to ship birds to the east coast, ship endangered species turtle eggs to the east coast. Just because BP MAY have capped the well deosn't mean it's over; the gulf will be recovering for decades.
    Truer words have not been written. Before everyone does a happy dance remember a way of live just got destroyed. People are out of work. The evironment will be in the crapper for the foreseeable future. This is the start, not the end.
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    Quote Originally posted by RichmondJake View post
    This ain't over yet, folks. The clean up will last a decade, at the very least, and the Gulf will probably not recover in our lifetimes.
    Off-topic:
    It was a lame attempt at humor. Yeah, I'm the guilty party

    Truer words were never spoken. This is a disaster that is going to come on in waves (pun intended). They may have gotten it capped and oil is no longer gushing but that was only the first and most easily remedied portion of the problem. Cleanup as you noted is going to take many years and the enormous environmental impacts are almost certainly going to be 'discovered' in stages - both to humans and all other life in the Gulf (and possibly beyond).
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    oil spill random

    First of all they capped the well (for now) - yippee & finally


    Second - these types of caps should have been designed a long time ago, having several already made and ready to be dispatched as soon as something like this happend


    Third - a friend of mine & I were talking abou the oil drilling ban and we came to the same conclusion, it is known that BP (the oil owner or subcontractor or whoever) shortcut or didn't do required safety backups on the rig and shutting down all the other operations at that particular moment was probably the right thing to do. Now the government should go out an thoroughly inspect every rig and once they are satisfied ALL safety and backup features are in place and operable, let the rig start again.


    Fourth - this should be a very strong kick in the a$$ for all of us to allow/develop/implement alternate energy solutions, which shouild also stimulate the economy with new research and manufacturing


    Fifth - our associate pastor's brother got a job using his boat to motor around Mobile Bay, when he spots oil he gets out his GPS and marks the spot then sends the data to a cleanup/skimmer vessel (his first job in a year because of the down economy)


    Sixth - we're in this for the long haul, so it will continue to be news for awhile - and very strong lessons should be learned (but won't)
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    Thank goodness for BP shares at $26!

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    Quote Originally posted by stroskey View post
    Thank goodness for BP shares at $26!
    Good luck with that one. They haven't even begins to assess damage.

    And btw- did I mention that stocks are evil?
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    Quote Originally posted by TexanOkie View post
    BP: No oil leaking into Gulf from busted well, from Yahoo! News:



    There's still a possibility the pressure could cause a break in the sea floor and start spewing crude again, which would be even harder to clean up until they finish drilling the relief wells next month, but still... it looks promising.
    Well...

    At least it lasted for a couple of days. Engineers Detect Seepage Near BP's Capped Oil Well, from CNBC.

    The Coast Guard has detected seepage near the capped well, in addition to several things it calls "anomalies". The Coast Guard has requested a procedure for releasing the valves on the cap ASAP in case the seepage is hydrocarbon-related from the oil reservoir. There's probably a good chance the cap will need to be opened soon and oil will begin gushing again.

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    Quote Originally posted by TexanOkie View post
    Well...

    At least it lasted for a couple of days. Engineers Detect Seepage Near BP's Capped Oil Well, from CNBC.

    The Coast Guard has detected seepage near the capped well, in addition to several things it calls "anomalies". The Coast Guard has requested a procedure for releasing the valves on the cap ASAP in case the seepage is hydrocarbon-related from the oil reservoir. There's probably a good chance the cap will need to be opened soon and oil will begin gushing again.
    But it'll probably be for the better. I read an article with some disaster movie quality scenario playing out if the sea floor cracked and a bubble of methane was released from the oil reservoir.
    Dude, I'm cheesing so hard right now.

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    Another rig has exploded off the LA coast

    http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2...ng_to_rig.html

    Luckily, everyone aboard is accounted for and there's only one reported injury. Supposedly the well was not in production, either. Hopefully, we don't have to say "here we go again" any time soon...

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    Quote Originally posted by TexanOkie View post
    http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2...ng_to_rig.html

    Luckily, everyone aboard is accounted for and there's only one reported injury. Supposedly the well was not in production, either. Hopefully, we don't have to say "here we go again" any time soon...

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    And just wait until a nice hurricane gets in the gulf, gets that crap airborne, and drops it in the fresh water supply... oh man.
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    And yet some want to go at it again without figuring out what went wrong and what we can do better to assure nothing happens again... can we really not wait to figure things out first? Is it worth it?
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    Quote Originally posted by Hink_Planner View post
    And yet some want to go at it again without figuring out what went wrong and what we can do better to assure nothing happens again... can we really not wait to figure things out first? Is it worth it?
    It is to BP...
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    Quote Originally posted by Mastiff View post
    It is to BP...
    Which in this capitalist society means that we should support that.... right?

    Hopefully BP doesn't just do damage control. Maybe they can actually try to fix the problem...
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    Quote Originally posted by TexanOkie View post
    http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2...ng_to_rig.html

    Luckily, everyone aboard is accounted for and there's only one reported injury. Supposedly the well was not in production, either. Hopefully, we don't have to say "here we go again" any time soon...
    No. It is in production. Almost 60,000 gallons of oil a day. Already lots of oil from it has been spilled. It is in shallow water though
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    Quote Originally posted by imaplanner View post
    No. It is in production. Almost 60,000 gallons of oil a day. Already lots of oil from it has been spilled. It is in shallow water though
    This is something for two reasons:

    Federal authorities have cited Mariner Energy and related entities for 10 accidents in the Gulf of Mexico over the last four years, according to safety records from the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, Regulation and Enforcement.

    The accidents range from platform fires to pollution spills and a blowout, according to accident-investigation reports from the agency formerly known as the Minerals Management Service.
    After 10 accidents in four years, including spills and fires, shouldn't they just be banned from doing this work? I mean, if I were at fault in that many traffic accidents, I couldn't get insurance...

    And the agency "formerly known as Minerals Management Service?" What are they, Prince? I guess that's how our government works... if an agency gets an incredible amount of well deserved bad press, you just change the name.
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    Quote Originally posted by imaplanner View post
    No. It is in production. Almost 60,000 gallons of oil a day. Already lots of oil from it has been spilled. It is in shallow water though
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    Well, the updates you mention are contrary to the initial reports when it first happened, which stated that there were no wells in production at the time of the fire. Such is the news media, I suppose - can't wait to verify claims before printing them.

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