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    Are planning schools different in Canada than the US?

    Are the city planning / urban planning schools different in Canada than the US city planning /urban planning schools?

    The reason I say that is most cities in Canada and very much at the east coast seem to have embrace the suburban look and feel than the urban look and feel in the US .

    Typical of a Toronto suburb look and feel of post ww2

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/61100570@N02/show/


    The US urban look and feel http://www.flickr.com/photos/61093568@N03/show/ ( this look and feel is typical of most cities in the US , nothing strange about it well very noticeable in the sun-belt cities.


    I think this urban look and feel was typical in the US from 1920 to 1950 and some cities 1920 to 1960 in the US .Even the neighborhood built from post ww2 to now in the US are not so crazy like this http://www.flickr.com/photos/61100570@N02/show/

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    Note for some reason cities in Canada and more so the east coast in Canada seem to have ban this urban look and feel that is typical of most cities in the US and noticeable in the sun-belt cities http://www.flickr.com/photos/61093568@N03/show/

    I'm not sure why?

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    Quote Originally posted by nec209 View post
    Note for some reason cities in Canada and more so the east coast in Canada seem to have ban this urban look and feel that is typical of most cities in the US and noticeable in the sun-belt cities http://www.flickr.com/photos/61093568@N03/show/

    I'm not sure why?
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    Quote Originally posted by Hink_Planner View post
    The answer is yes. Or Florida. Whichever best fits. Thanks.
    Can you or some one elaborate on this.

    This is confusing.


    The urban look typical of most cities in the US and noticeable in the sun-belt cities .

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/61093568@N03/show/

    I think this urban look and feel was typical in the US from 1920 to 1950 and some cities 1920 to 1960 in the US

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    It's not so much that Canadian planning schools promote different views for planning than in the US. It's just that some planning techniques are not politically feasible in certain parts of the US. Like the Sunbelt has historically been pretty rural and the people there have been hostile to the government telling them what they can do with their land. This along with the fact that these cities didn't really start growing significantly till after air conditioning and automobile usage were widespread. It's just a recipe for sprawl.

    Basically some parts of the US have historically leaned toward urbanization while others tried to be more rural. This is somewhat reflected in city form. Even the current state of politics in the US is indicative of this divide. Democrats tend to represent more urbanized areas while Republicans represent more rural areas.

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    It's not so much that Canadian planning schools promote different views for planning than in the US


    Canadian cities especially in the east part of Canada and very very very very very much so Toronto are nothing like the US cities in look and feel.




    It's just that some planning techniques are not politically feasible in certain parts of the US. Like the Sunbelt has historically been pretty rural and the people there have been hostile to the government telling them what they can do with their land.


    I'm sure rural is not the main reason why the Sunbelt cities especially LA embrace this look .


    That me say this again the east part of Canada and very much so Toronto are nothing like the US cities .


    The Sunbelts cities seem to have embrace the flat and spread out look where east part of Canada and very much so Toronto embrace the high density look and suburban look of the post ww2..


    I have spend the past 5 years trying understand why this is the case and no luck.

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    After coming from a trip to some cities my last thought on this is.

    Basically you can summarize both as city sprawl one is urban sprawl and the other is suburb sprawl .

    urban sprawl
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/61093568@N03/show/


    suburb sprawl
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/61100570@N02/show/


    I think this is where the confusion is here as Canada the east coast especially Toronto are not into the urban sprawl .

    The urban cities copied the Europe city planners here in the east coast of Canada especially Toronto And Toronto I think embrace the garden city movment and suburb feel .

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    I think that suburban sprawl can be seen in many American cities, and it is similar in form to Canadian cities such as Toronto. The main difference between the two areas in the photographs may be that you are comparing an area closer to the city centre in the American example in one further away in the Canadian example. The United States, on the whole, is built more around expressways and less reliant on public transportation than Canada. This leads to even higher amounts of urban sprawl or more "bedroom communities" than can be observed in Canada. A good example is the Washington D.C. area in the surrounding suburbs and bedroom communities in Virginia and Maryland.

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