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    [OMG!] urban areas

    This is a urban planning site and posts should be about urban planning stuff. So I will post about city stuff instead of this stoopid unicorn stuff.

    My question - do you think middle sized downtowns are more profitable to the cities than small ones. I am pretty sure most middle sized downtowns have lifestyle center malls and smaller ones don't. What do you think?

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    All downtown centers should have an urban feeling. They should all include stores like:

    -Abercrombie and Fitch
    -Gap
    -Buckle
    -Nordstroms
    -Target
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    Quote Originally posted by City18 View post
    This is a urban planning site and posts should be about urban planning stuff. So I will post about city stuff instead of this stoopid unicorn stuff.

    My question - do you think middle sized downtowns are more profitable to the cities than small ones. I am pretty sure most middle sized downtowns have lifestyle center malls and smaller ones don't. What do you think?
    C18,
    Downtowns should not be about profit. Profit is for capitalist pigs, and snooty republicans. Downtowns are about creating spaces for fellow country men to frolic, enjoy what little lives capitalism allows them to enjoy, and downtowns should all look the same like hamlet in california named santa barabra and stalingrad

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    Quote Originally posted by Hink_Planner View post
    All downtown centers should have an urban feeling. They should all include stores like:

    -Abercrombie and Fitch
    -Gap
    -Buckle
    -Nordstroms
    -Target
    You don't know what you're talking about. I'm talking about downtown areas that are experiencing GROWTH. Maybe more like a Macy's lifestyle mall (and not a lifestyle center)

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    Quote Originally posted by City18 View post
    You don't know what you're talking about. I'm talking about downtown areas that are experiencing GROWTH. Maybe more like a Macy's lifestyle mall (and not a lifestyle center)
    You are right. I have NO IDEA what I am talking about. But I have opinions that are RIGHT. So listen to me.
    A common mistake people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Douglas Adams

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    you know you've arrived when the Starbucks shows up

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    Quote Originally posted by Hink_Planner View post
    You are right. I have NO IDEA what I am talking about. But I have opinions that are RIGHT. So listen to me.
    You're mocking me, aren't you? I'm reporting you to the mods!

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    Quote Originally posted by City18 View post
    You're mocking me, aren't you? I'm reporting you to the mods!
    Are you SLO? Oops! I mean from SLO?
    In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends. -Martin Luther King Jr.

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    Quote Originally posted by City18 View post
    You're mocking me, aren't you? I'm reporting you to the mods!
    You would do that. I hope they green card you!!!!
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    Quote Originally posted by City18 View post
    You don't know what you're talking about. I'm talking about downtown areas that are experiencing GROWTH. Maybe more like a Macy's lifestyle mall (and not a lifestyle center)
    Comrade, Why do you shackle yourself to these capitalist pigs? You should focus on civic life and grandeur like our fellow comrade Dan Burnham.

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    Quote Originally posted by City18 View post
    do you think middle sized downtowns are more profitable to the cities than small ones. I am pretty sure most middle sized downtowns have lifestyle center malls and smaller ones don't. What do you think?
    WTF????????
    Men do dumb $hit... it is what they do to correct the problem that counts.

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    Quote Originally posted by luckless pedestrian View post
    you know you've arrived when the Starbucks shows up
    Damnit, you're telling me the fair city I work in hasn't arrived yet?
    "He defended the cause of the poor and needy, and so all went well. Is that not what it means to know me?" Jeremiah 22:16

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    Quote Originally posted by kjelsadek View post
    Damnit, you're telling me the fair city I work in hasn't arrived yet?
    What happens to your city when your Starbucks close and are replaced by Tim Horton's?? Thats what has happened to several of ours.
    We hope for better things; it will arise from the ashes - Fr Gabriel Richard 1805

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    I misread this thread as "urban orcas". I got excited. Free range orcas in city water features. Awe-sum.
    In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends. -Martin Luther King Jr.

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    Urban areas have to be unicorn friendly or they will all cry
    "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin

    Remember this motto to live by: "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, martini in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO- HOO what a ride!'"

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    Quote Originally posted by PlannerGirl View post
    Urban areas have to be unicorn friendly or they will all cry
    I didn't realize even one urban area cried much less all of them.

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    Quote Originally posted by DetroitPlanner View post
    What happens to your city when your Starbucks close and are replaced by Tim Horton's?? Thats what has happened to several of ours.
    You're lucky. In Buffalo, Starbucks barely entered the market, but there's over 100 Tim Hortons. The market penetration is practically Hamiltonesque.

    I wonder how well a Canadian Tire would do in downtown SLO?
    Growth for growth's sake is the ideology of the cancer cell. -- Edward Abbey

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    Quote Originally posted by Dan View post
    You're lucky. In Buffalo, Starbucks barely entered the market, but there's over 100 Tim Hortons. The market penetration is practically Hamiltonesque.

    I wonder how well a Canadian Tire would do in downtown SLO?
    They have one! its right next to Mr Sub and Swiss Chalet.
    We hope for better things; it will arise from the ashes - Fr Gabriel Richard 1805

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    Quote Originally posted by DetroitPlanner View post
    They have one! its right next to Mr Sub and Swiss Chalet.
    I meant San Luis Obispo, not Sault Ste. Marie.
    Growth for growth's sake is the ideology of the cancer cell. -- Edward Abbey

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    A city shouldn't be judged by its lifestyle centers. It should be judged by the height and number of SKYSCRAPERS!

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    Quote Originally posted by Seabishop View post
    A city shouldn't be judged by its lifestyle centers. It should be judged by the height and number of SKYSCRAPERS!
    What if your skyscrapers are empty?
    We hope for better things; it will arise from the ashes - Fr Gabriel Richard 1805

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    Quote Originally posted by Seabishop View post
    A city shouldn't be judged by its lifestyle centers. It should be judged by
    the number and milage of urban trails. Like Denver and Portland.
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    Quote Originally posted by JNA View post
    the number and milage of urban trails. Like Denver and Portland.
    Cheers to that!

    the number of Thule and Yakima racks too
    "You can measure the health of a city by the vitality and energy of its streets and public open spaces.-- William H. Whyte..

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    Quote Originally posted by dandy_warhol View post
    I misread this thread as "urban orcas". I got excited. Free range orcas in city water features. Awe-sum.
    Several years ago I saw a pod of orcas in one of Otisville's water features. We call this water feature "the Pacific Ocean." They were right outside of the surf zone. Cool to see.

    We also have a couple of Starbucks. In a town of 8,000.

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