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    Super Moderator luckless pedestrian's avatar
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    What kind of planner are you anyway?

    In reading some of the serious threads lately, I have noticed there are some "rabid planners" out there - the more mild version I used to know and refer to as "advocacy planners" - not sure if it needs a definition as FAC folks will just know

    so what other kind of planners are there?

    once we have a decent defined list, I'll do a poll

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    On a scale is there a in-between of being "advocacy planners" and a STAN ?

    I am guessing a half hearted give a sh!t ?
    you realize where your bread is buttered but trying to improve things.
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    Quote Originally posted by JNA View post
    On a scale is there a in-between of being "advocacy planners" and a STAN ?

    I am guessing a half hearted give a sh!t ?
    you realize where your bread is buttered but trying to improve things.
    so a "bread and butter planner"

    okay

    I think there is also a definition for "trench planners" who work in local government, perhaps a smaller town, definitely always in controversy (wait, that's me)

    what term for the planner who is waiting out their 30 year mark to get full retirement?

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    Quote Originally posted by luckless pedestrian View post
    what term for the planner who is waiting out their 30 year mark to get full retirement?
    The "Lame Duck Planner"?
    "When life gives you lemons, just say 'No thanks'." - Henry Rollins

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    I'm definitely a grunt work planner. I do all the grunt work for projects and work on a lot of day to day stuff. I present project less frenquently than other higher-titled planners, but am always here working it seems. All the other planners in my office have kids and major out of work commitments (medical, military) and I am usually here when they are all out of the office, manning the phones, counters, etc.
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    In the past, most of my work was related to development review. Now, I'm a planner of all trades; some comp planning, some current planning, some transportation, some urban design. I'm weak in GIS, but can still play around with layers and the like.

    Are there any actual blueshirts on Cyburbia now? Any BPDs*?




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    Dan, I think that survivalism has taken hold and the conventional Blueshirt has adapted into a different role.

    I'm a:

    1. Burned out planner
    2. Need something more, but nowhere to go to.
    Dude, I'm cheesing so hard right now.

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    I've always been a local government trench planner (good term lp) but I think at this point I'd rather have one of those cushy positions in regional planning agencies where there is no contact with an angry public/elected officials/developers/attorneys. That would seem to eliminate at least 90% of the stress associated with a planning career.

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    we need terms and even acronyms people

    Quote Originally posted by hilldweller View post
    I... I'd rather have one of those cushy positions in regional planning agencies where there is no contact with an angry public/elected officials/developers/attorneys. That would seem to eliminate at least 90% of the stress associated with a planning career.
    so a "closet planner"?

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    Quote Originally posted by Dan View post
    I'm a planner of all trades; some comp planning, ....
    I'm weak in GIS, but can still play around with layers and the like.
    That's me a trench planner - , some current - subdivisions, and
    some special projects like Census, public safety - support EMA & Fire Dept
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    I'm liking the term "Trench". That works. However, within trench I think that there are some subsets; like the burnouts, the placeholders and the true-believers. Burnouts need no description. Placeholders are career people. They might have been architects, they might have been engineers or librarians. They are not - they are planners. True Believers are not really as rabid as Advocacy Planners, but these are people who get a little abrasive to the non-planner types.

    Somewhere between Placeholders and Trye Believers I think you'll find me. In the trench, but proud of the trench and willing to be the only person in this building that wants to spend my day thinking about community.
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    Idealistic Planners aka new to the profession.

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    Quote Originally posted by dandy_warhol View post
    Idealistic Planners aka new to the profession.
    Could we call them YTPs? (Young Turk Planners)....
    "...I would never try to tick Hink off. He kinda intimidates me. He's quite butch, you know." - Maister

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    I think I may have enough by day's end to do a poll

    any other types?

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    What type are the pretty posed people in the Planning magazine photos ?
    or
    our favorite - red dress dancing on stage at philly conference ?
    Oddball
    Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves?
    Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here?
    Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?
    From Kelly's Heroes (1970)


    Are you sure you're not hurt ?
    No. Just some parts wake up faster than others.
    Broke parts take a little longer, though.
    From Electric Horseman (1979)

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    Roadblock Planners and the opposite, Get It Built Planners.
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    I'm sorry. Is my bias showing?

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    Quote Originally posted by otterpop View post
    A bearded, sarcastic curmudgeon planner.
    Basically, a planner working in the rural Rocky Mountain west?

    Quote Originally posted by JNA View post
    What type are the pretty posed people in the Planning magazine photos ?
    IMHO, probably blueshirts. Has a Cyburbian ever been pictured in Planning Magazine? (I was, but that was back in 1998, before there was that Other Web Site.)
    Growth for growth's sake is the ideology of the cancer cell. -- Edward Abbey

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    I'm a bearded, burned out, trench planning director, hoping to hang on until 2016.

    I have a planner who works for me that is over the idealistic planner stage, but seems to be stuck in the role of a dreamland planner. This is a planner who used to be idealistic, has had that beaten out him, and still can't come up with much that's realistic based on the political climate we are facing.

    Oh, there's also commie planners but maybe that's redundant.

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