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Poll results: Which gambling activities have you participated in?

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  • have gambled in at least one casino

    22 70.97%
  • have bet on at least one horse race

    11 35.48%
  • have played the lottery

    24 77.42%
  • have purchased instant lottery tickets

    23 74.19%
  • have gone toe to toe with the old ladies at a bingo parlor

    7 22.58%
  • how much do you wanna bet I never gamble?

    2 6.45%
  • I don't gamble. why do you hate America?

    0 0%
  • other gambling activity (explained below)

    8 25.81%
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    Chairman of the bored Maister's avatar
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    Gambling

    Are you by nature a gambler? Do you enjoy watching Texas hold em tournements on television? Do you plan trips to Vegas or Atlantic City to hit the casinos?
    If you go to casinos what games do you play? Do you participate in poker nights with friends or coworkers? Maybe just play the lotto or buy those instant lottery tickets at the gas station once in a while? Perhaps you enjoy the visceral thrills that go along with hanging out with the little old ladies at the bingo parlor?

    How about in your work or personal life - do you take any pleasure when bluffing a developer 'fine, see you in court'? Ever take a calculated risk not telling a SO about something you've either done or not done that you know would displease them, on the chance you might not get caught?

    I confess I'm luke-warm when it comes to gambling. I don't really enjoy the 'excitement' that comes awaiting uncertain outcomes in most things in life - gives me knots in my stomach more than 'thrills'. I've gambled at a casino only once in my life (lost $12), but have participated in poker games a dozen or so times in my lifetime (probably broke even big picture).

    I will admit I frequently play the lotto, but only because an enthusiastic coworker always buys the tickets for the office pool, otherwise I probably would not. Maybe once a year or so I'll buy instant lottery tickets when the mood strikes (and usually end up winning a couple bucks). It kills me when you see people enthusiastically playing the lottery only when there's an enormous jackpot (what, it's not worth your time to play getting slightly better odds when the jackpot is a 'paltry' 12 million?)
    People will miss that it once meant something to be Southern or Midwestern. It doesn't mean much now, except for the climate. The question, “Where are you from?” doesn't lead to anything odd or interesting. They live somewhere near a Gap store, and what else do you need to know? - Garrison Keillor

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    I don't gamble on a frequent basis, and when I do we're talking minor amounts. I don't card gamble at casinos, but do enjoy craps and roulette. Even then, casino trips are very rare for me because of the prudes that run Texas. The only gambling that I've ever felt guilty about was horse racing, mainly because of animal rights concerns. I don't bet or attend horse races anymore.

    One of my favorite games was an invention by one of my friends in college, which he called bar lottery. We would each bet a dollar, and then each of us would take turns to create a question to ask another table at the bar with a quantifiable answer. For example, we might ask how many total tattoos are at the table next to us, with each of us placing a bet. One of us would then go to that table and ask. Whoever was the closest won the pot. We would frequently get other tables playing it as a result. And if you are wondering, yes, we used it as a method to approach women while avoiding creepy pick-up lines.

    "Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."

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    I enjoy visiting casinos, though I don't gamble too often. I especially enjoy visiting the bigger Native American casinos. They're fun, and I enjoy supporting the concept and success of such endeavors in sticking it (back) to the man for all the mistreatments they'd received historically (even though it comes nowhere as close). Case in point - the Chickasaw Nation's Winstar Casino and Resort that's on exit 1 on I-35 in Oklahoma, which has been crazy successful since opening up less than a decade ago, becoming the 3rd largest casino in the world. Winstar preys off on Texas money, which I find outstanding considering Texas's dismal and near-genecidal treatment of American Indians in history.

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    Quote Originally posted by Suburb Repairman View post
    One of my favorite games was an invention by one of my friends in college, which he called bar lottery. We would each bet a dollar, and then each of us would take turns to create a question to ask another table at the bar with a quantifiable answer. For example, we might ask how many total tattoos are at the table next to us, with each of us placing a bet. One of us would then go to that table and ask. Whoever was the closest won the pot. We would frequently get other tables playing it as a result. And if you are wondering, yes, we used it as a method to approach women while avoiding creepy pick-up lines.
    This borders on genius. I hope all the single guys are taking notes...
    People will miss that it once meant something to be Southern or Midwestern. It doesn't mean much now, except for the climate. The question, “Where are you from?” doesn't lead to anything odd or interesting. They live somewhere near a Gap store, and what else do you need to know? - Garrison Keillor

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    I don't know if you would consider it gambling, but daring people to do things for money is always a great way to bring friends together and humiliate one another in public
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    I like gambling. I like how much it corrupts the world....

    It is a fun thing to do every once and a while, but overall I am not huge gambler. We have had some big battles in Ohio over gambling lately, with the approval of 4 casinos in the state.

    I like cards, lotto, and slots. Free drinks always help too
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    When was the last time you ever heard of a casino going out of business? (okay, maybe in Vegas where there's market oversaturation) My god, those things are cash cows. I heard a local casino borrowed 3 million for their slots and ended up paying off the loan way early, like after being in operation only 9 months!
    People will miss that it once meant something to be Southern or Midwestern. It doesn't mean much now, except for the climate. The question, “Where are you from?” doesn't lead to anything odd or interesting. They live somewhere near a Gap store, and what else do you need to know? - Garrison Keillor

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    I answered 'yes' to a few of the lines above, but the most recent was in the early 1990s (other than for a private random draw pool on the Kentucky Derby a few weeks ago, as well as other occasional private random square sports pools).

    I'm one who doesn't find a lot of attraction to the traditional casino games, especially where it is a random outcome game and you are playing against the house (slots, most table games), rather being one to prefer placing 'intelligent' bets against the other players (as in a sports book or parimutuel situation) whenever I do gamble.

    I'm also the kind that would likely make a very good poker player (which I consider to be much more a game of skill than a game of chance), if I would have ever gotten into it.

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    Quote Originally posted by Maister View post
    This borders on genius. I hope all the single guys are taking notes...
    No borders about it. It's an incredible idea.
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    I should just go to the cashier at the casino and hand them my money and leave. That's my gambling luck.

    Played lottery and won small amounts, but that's really about it.Except for basketball polls and I generally do alright in those.
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    I love gambling. But I made the decision to avoid most gambling because of it.

    I'll do NCAA brackets and make friendly bets with people who like that university in AA. But other than that, I avoid it because it would suck me in.
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    I've never gotten the appeal of lottery or scratch tickets, but I do enjoy casino gambling every so often, poker nights with friends, and NCAA tournament brackets.

    At casinos, only the table games interest me, mostly craps because of the social aspect of it.
    Two wrongs don't necessarily make a right, but three lefts do.

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    I turned 21 not long after the two big Native American casinos opened in CT. I've been to them many times, though the draw to those places was the architecture, design, food (omg the food!) and the shows. I barely spent a quarter gambling.

    I do NCAA pools every year (won two of 3 this year, yay me) but only scratch a ticket if its given to me as a stocking stuffer or something.

    I was at APA in Vegas a few years ago, but found the buildings so much more fascinating than the gambling inside. I gave myself a limit of 50 bucks while I was there and had no problem sticking to it. My money was much better spent checking out Cirque's 'KA' at MGM.

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    I haven't been to a casino in years.

    My biggest annual gambling expense is probably the "annual gathering of the guys" for poker. I typically come close to breaking even for the weekend.
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    I played the lotto exactly once. I had a statistics and probability on college which ruined things for me. You might as well go through your money in the ocean/river/lake. Casinos are lost on me. They seem to be soulless places. Sadly they are becoming places to go see concerts at.
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    Quote Originally posted by Suburb Repairman View post
    One of my favorite games was an invention by one of my friends in college, which he called bar lottery. We would each bet a dollar, and then each of us would take turns to create a question to ask another table at the bar with a quantifiable answer. For example, we might ask how many total tattoos are at the table next to us, with each of us placing a bet. One of us would then go to that table and ask. Whoever was the closest won the pot. We would frequently get other tables playing it as a result. And if you are wondering, yes, we used it as a method to approach women while avoiding creepy pick-up lines.
    Holy crap that is genius. Notes taken...
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    Quote Originally posted by Whose Yur Planner View post
    I played the lotto exactly once. I had a statistics and probability on college which ruined things for me. You might as well go through your money in the ocean/river/lake. Casinos are lost on me. They seem to be soulless places. Sadly they are becoming places to go see concerts at.
    The worst sights for me at gambling casinos are those rows of slot machines and all of the people seen sitting glassy-eyed at them. I've heard stories of people passing out and having to be tended to by EMTs, they get so mesmerized that they ignore literally everything else, including fatigue, thirst, hunger, lightheadedness, medical problems, etc.

    Also, I will never step into an Indian casino, their payoffs are generally worse than private-sector casinos (especially in states like Wisconsin where they have no nearby legal competition) and if they decide that there was a problem with a game and they will not pay off on a big win, you have no recourse - the tribes that own and operate them also regulate their operation (with only a cursory oversight from their states). It's that 'sovereign immunity' thing that also often comes up in land-use regulation in urbanized areas with reservation trust land (ie, the west side of the Green Bay, WI metro area).

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    Never been to a casino or horse race, play the lottery on very rare occasions, haven't purchased a scratch-off ticket since the second week they were available in Georgia. I did ocassionally play poker in college for very small stakes, and would also occasionally hustle freshmen in nine-ball.

    I do participate in March Madness pools. A couple of years after leaving the state agency where I started my professional career, I finally won their pool (the organizer let "alumni" continue to play to keep up the size of the pot). He figured the quickest way to get my winnings to me would be to have a coworker of his bring them to a project-related public meeting we were both going to attend. So, just before the meeting kicked off, the state employee walked up to me (a consultant on the project) and handed me an envelope full of cash, quickly looked around, mutterred something like "that didn't look good," and went scurrying off.

    EDIT:...and I'm a few beers in the hole at this point with Planit on the outcome of the World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party.
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    Office pool on lottery,
    As mention several time NCAA brackets,
    Superbowl squares,

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    believe it or not I have never been on/in our riverboat casino,
    that never really cruised because most of the Ohio River is in Kentucky,

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    I am not big on gambling because I rarely have any cash to spare. I've been to Las Vegas and Atlantic City before and generally just play a few bucks at the cheap slots and have played blackjack a couple of times since that's the only game I really understand.

    The ex-hubby liked to hit the Spirit Mountain Casino in Grand Ronde, OR a few times a year. He was reasonably good enough at poker and blackjack that he'd win enough to cover gas, dinner, and drinks yet still go home a little ahead.
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    When I worked the overnight shift at a supermarket I'd play the scratch off just about every night, just a two dollar ticket usually. Never won much. The few times I've done it in Illinois I've never won anything so not much motivation to keep playing.

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    The only times I've ever played the lottery is when a bunch of people at work would go in on a pool when the jackpot was really big or whatever. I should know better, but I've still done it a few times anyways.

    I also usually get scratch-off lottery tickets at Christmas from relatives and whatnot, especially my Grandma. She goes a little overboard, and I wish she would get us all something else. Sure, two people may get $20 or something, but the other fifteen people will be stiffed, and she ends up having wasted a lot of money buying all those tickets. Also, during our gift exchange game that we do every year, everyone would end up buying $10 worth of scratch-off tickets, because it was an easy thing to get on the way over, which I began to hate. It seems like such a waste of money to me...I'd rather we'd all exchange gift cards, where at least you know the person will at least get $10-15 worth of stuff, rather than the chance that they will get nothing! I voiced my opinion to my relatives, and it seems to have worked somewhat.

    I also have a friend that's really big into poker and my brother was too, so I played a little bit in the mid-2000s. I won like $60 once, but lost the last couple times I played against people that played more regularly than I did, and because of that, I really have no desire to go back and play again.

    Regarding casinos and Vegas and all that, I've never been to a casino, but I think I would definitely go for the food, drink, and entertainment. Other people can have fun throwing their money away, but it's just not for me.
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    Quote Originally posted by illinoisplanner View post
    The only times I've ever played the lottery is when a bunch of people at work would go in on a pool when the jackpot was really big or whatever. I should know better, but I've still done it a few times anyways.

    I also usually get scratch-off lottery tickets at Christmas from relatives and whatnot, especially my Grandma. She goes a little overboard, and I wish she would get us all something else. Sure, two people may get $20 or something, but the other fifteen people will be stiffed, and she ends up having wasted a lot of money buying all those tickets. Also, during our gift exchange game that we do every year, everyone would end up buying $10 worth of scratch-off tickets, because it was an easy thing to get on the way over, which I began to hate. It seems like such a waste of money to me...I'd rather we'd all exchange gift cards, where at least you know the person will at least get $10-15 worth of stuff, rather than the chance that they will get nothing! I voiced my opinion to my relatives, and it seems to have worked somewhat.

    I also have a friend that's really big into poker and my brother was too, so I played a little bit in the mid-2000s. I won like $60 once, but lost the last couple times I played against people that played more regularly than I did, and because of that, I really have no desire to go back and play again.

    Regarding casinos and Vegas and all that, I've never been to a casino, but I think I would definitely go for the food, drink, and entertainment. Other people can have fun throwing their money away, but it's just not for me.
    That's pretty much how I feel about it.

    Anyways, I'm not sure if they still do this, but for several years, the Wisconsin Lottery sold 'holiday' themed $1 scratch-off tix that are made up as 'to/from' gift tags. I thought that that was a pretty nifty, creative idea.

    (hehehe)

    Mike

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    Hi, my name is Gedunker and I like to bet the ponies.

    I've played the lotteries on occasion and poker with the guys. I despise casinos. Mrs. G and I typically make two trips to Churchill Downs for the Spring meet and one for the Fall meet.

    (Churchill Downs is only live for racing about 90 days a year. (Bet you thought it was open year-round, didn't you?)

    While we're small-time bettors, we've had some big winners over the years. Mrs. G likes to bet form and I'm a past-performance/breeding guy. (I should follow her lead: she once bet a couple of 50-1 shots in an Exacta that hit and won close to $1000 on a $4 bet. When I asked her why she bet two very long shots she replied "I could tell both were eager to run on the walk over from the barns and one was ONLY 35-1 when I bet him"! She got a 10-99 form from CD for that one...)

    The track is different from other forms of gambling: there's more camaraderie among bettors. In the 94 Derby, it was raining all day long and the track was a sloppy mess. I went to place my Derby bets about an hour before the race and there were three guys from Chicago behind me that clearly were noobs. I explained how to read a form for past performances, including over an "off" track, and that one horse should stand out. ("Off" meaning wet or sloppy.) Go for Gin was 4-4-0-0 (four starts: four wins) over a wet track. I placed my winning bets and walked off not ever knowing how they bet. I hope they remember that guy in Lou-a-vull with his tip ...
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    I dont like to gamble on the pokies or tables- i think i put a dollar into a pokie in vegas, just to say i did it.

    I dont play cards.

    I am in a lotto syndicate at work that puts down $20 a month.
    Oh and i also bet on horses say twice a year. With the horses- i will set an amount of $$ aside as money i can afford to lose. Once that goes- well its game over. I don't bet big amounts- 5 or 10 each way usually. I love going to the races!
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