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    When to say, "They're not going to hire me?"

    I'm wondering how long after submitting an application I should accept that I'm not going to get an interview and move one. I realize that public sector hiring processes can be frustratingly long and drawn out, and hiring policies are not always readily apparent. However after several weeks and two followups I am no closer to hearing back from a job that I applied for, and for which I thought I was well-qualified. The opening is still listed on the agency's website and is "Open Until Filled," but I know from a followup that the hiring planner reviewed my application over two weeks ago. Is it time to throw in the towel?

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    Quote Originally posted by allez View post
    "Open Until Filled," but I know from a followup that the hiring planner reviewed my application over two weeks ago.
    "Open Until Filled" typically means this:

    We will take your application, but seriously we are not looking for anybody unless we have the money in the budget, and so right now we don't but we want to make it look like we do so we will advertise the position so we don't loose any additional money.

    Move on.
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    I would say no. After a phone interview and follow-up in person interview, I had 1 week of submitting background information and transcripts, then 2 whole weeks of silence, then finally a job offer. Just be patient. If you think you were worth their time, they'll let you know.

    But that is no reason to stop hunting for other jobs
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    Don't give up yet. But don't be complacent either. I'm assuming you are currently not employed, in which case you should be applying to other jobs while waiting. This may be your #1 preference, but don't put your eggs in just that one basket.

    CPSURaf touched on this, but most public entities are in the middle of 'budget season.' At this point they may not be 100% confident about the status of their department budget, and are therefore delaying hiring until they have more confidence that the position won't be cut.

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    Most importantly I can say, don't give up on your search. Though this job may be your ideal job just in case it doesn't pan out you don't want to be 3 or 4 weeks behind in your job search. Keep searching, keep sending out applications and resumes and if this job comes through then you have only used up some of your time now, but if it doesn't come through you don't want to have to get back into the search mode.

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    Thanks for the info. I did some looking and the city is in the middle of it's budget approval for '11-'12, and will approve it in about 2 weeks. I've certainly not given up my search. Regarding CPSURaf's comment, according to the city's website all positions are "Open Until Filled" so hopefully you're wrong on this one.

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    You always need to move on. You do what you need to do to follow up, but you always move on, regardless of how good the possibility looks. Don't stop the search until you have a final offer in writing that you will accept.

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    In my experience, "open until filled" means "We're not going to tie ourselves down to any particular schedule. If we find the right person quickly we will hire them. If not, we'll keep looking."

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    Move on. If they want you, they will give you a job. Keep looking until you sign on the dotted line.
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    If they don't call me back within a day or two they probably aren't interested. That's not set in stone though.
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    Keep looking, but understand that for many places, the new fiscal year starts on July 1, and they won't make any hiring decisions until budgets are able to be spent.
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    My P-R was a large municipality that advertised the position in time for the sping APA confab, and filled it o-n-e y-e-a-r later.

    A job is not like a restaurant meal where you stop looking once you've placed your order. More like a garden. Keep on hoeing!

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