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    Does anyone know of examples of public fireplaces in urban environments? In order to make some areas attractive year-round we're considering fireplaces but wanted to know of related issues.

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    Quote Originally posted by echdc View post
    Does anyone know of examples of public fireplaces in urban environments? In order to make some areas attractive year-round we're considering fireplaces but wanted to know of related issues.
    I don't know of any public fireplaces, but maintenance would be the big thing for me. That and safety. I would look around Aspen, Denver, and other ski locations, as their public spaces are shaped much differently than most.
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    Quote Originally posted by echdc View post
    Does anyone know of examples of public fireplaces in urban environments? In order to make some areas attractive year-round we're considering fireplaces but wanted to know of related issues.
    A city in the area has a fire pit in a mall...erm...lifestyle center, here.

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    Quote Originally posted by echdc View post
    Does anyone know of examples of public fireplaces in urban environments? In order to make some areas attractive year-round we're considering fireplaces but wanted to know of related issues.
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    Quote Originally posted by ColoGI View post
    A city in the area has a fire pit in a mall...erm...lifestyle center, here.
    See told you to look around Colorado....
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    I'd imagine those are gas fireplaces though. I was under the impression wood burning fire places were essentially not permitted in new construction in Colorado due to air quality issues.

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    Quote Originally posted by Hink_Planner View post
    See told you to look around Colorado....
    ;o)

    You made me think that IIRC Breck probably has one as well as Aspen & Vail. Not aware of one in Denver, Steamboat, Crested Butte - not to say there are none. I'll check Breck next month.

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    Quote Originally posted by ColoGI View post
    A city in the area has a fire pit in a mall...erm...lifestyle center, here.
    We have an outdoor mall... err lifestyle center that has those. They even encourage people to bring thier dogs! BTW you don't want to see a Doberman and a Pitbull fighting over the carcass of a yorkie!

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    I know of one near Otisville on the Oregon coast: http://www.tbg-arch.com/commercial/s...n-marketplace/ It is called the Marketplace at Salishan.

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    Quote Originally posted by Otis View post
    I know of one near Otisville on the Oregon coast: http://www.tbg-arch.com/commercial/s...n-marketplace/ It is called the Marketplace at Salishan.
    OT, sounded familiar so GoogleMapped it, I forgot about all the clearcuts. Sheesh!

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    Cool looking space, though.

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    Quote Originally posted by ColoGI View post
    ;o)

    You made me think that IIRC Breck probably has one as well as Aspen & Vail. Not aware of one in Denver, Steamboat, Crested Butte - not to say there are none. I'll check Breck next month.
    Crested Butte doesn't nor does Mountain Crested Butte.
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    As far as issues go, I think you are primarily dealing with preventing the fire from spreading and dealing with the smoke. An open fire ring is not going to do much for smoke, but a fireplace will. I have some images in my collection. I will have to see if I can dig them up.
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    Not sure if you are talking about Outdoor or Indoor fireplaces. I've designed a couple of indoor fireplaces in public libraries (both gas fireplaces - cleaner for air as well as maintenance), so can address these. I've also heard of/seen them in recreation centers, senior centers, community centers. Some of these could be indoor to outdoor as well (I've seen this in Yosemite along an exterior wall at a lodge).

    Issues included: well, this was in California, State of Liability, so keeping people away from the glass front of the fireplace to prevent burns was important. so, we designed a secondary piece of glass in front of it as part of the surround to prevent that - you need to vent the space in between though. (I know, it is nice to now live in a no fault state where people take responsibility for their actions.)

    There are also some state building codes that can be particular (the Plumbing or Mechanical Code I think, but I can't remember just now). The one we ended up specifying - to meet the direct venting requirement - was www.europeanhome.com I'm sure there are others as well. One of the buildings opened a few years ago, the other in July, so far I haven't heard of any problems.

    For Outdoor - depends on where - California has pretty much banned wood-burning fireplaces (and have 'no burn' days when the air quality is poor), so it would be poor form for them to put a wood-burning fireplace somewhere themselves. I would think Air Quality requirements and potential pollution would need to be addressed.

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    Interesting concept. Would love to hear if you have any luck.

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    Many have taken to calling these "fire features" in order to be consistent with the term "water feature." They're nice to have both indoors and outdoors.

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