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Poll results: Which best describes your opinion concerning Star Wars vs Star Trek franchises

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  • Star Trek Roolz Star Warz Droolz

    7 35.00%
  • Star Wars Roolz and Star Trek Droolz

    7 35.00%
  • They both Rool/Drool

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  • Why do you hate the galaxy?

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Thread: Star Trek vs Star Wars/ Fisher vs Shatner Smackdown

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    Star Trek vs Star Wars/ Fisher vs Shatner Smackdown

    Troubles a' brewin' and geek battle lines are being drawn. Where do your loyalties lie? Choose sides and let the battle begin!

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    Star Trek rules!

    I am definitely in the Star Trek camp. It is a bit more cerebral. The storyline spreads over decades. And the villains are so much better - the slimy Cardassians, the comical Ferrengi, the inscrutable Romulans, the warlike Klingons and the almost unstoppable Borg.

    What kind of villains does Star Wars have? A tall dude in a mask and cape with asthma and an evil Empire that gets their ass handed to them by a bunch of pre-Bronze Age teddy bears with teeth, a whinny teenager with daddy issues, and a wizened midget with dyslexia.

    While I enjoyed Princess Leia in her iconic golden bikini, Seven of Nine in a catsuit is way hotter.

    But I will concede that light saber duels are pretty damn cool, and that Jedi mind trick would be handy.
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    Quote Originally posted by otterpop View post
    While I enjoyed Princess Leia in her iconic golden bikini, Seven of Nine in a catsuit is way hotter.
    I don't know if you've seen recent pics of her, but perhaps her long captivity with Jabba the Hut has begun to rub off on her.

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    Star Wars' extended universe is pretty fleshed out. The recent extended universe stuff is much better than the prequel movies. Like the Clone Wars cartoon or the Knights of the Old Republic video game franchise are all very good.

    As for the question, I'd have to go with Star Wars. I've always liked the scale of Star Wars which made the whole thing feel more epic to me. Star Trek always felt kind of mundane compared to what I saw in Star Wars. The epic battles just don't occur very much in Star Trek since they're usually not engaged in open warfare. The Star Trek universe is a lot more peaceful than the Star Wars one.

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    I have one word... Yoda. Even Spock would bow down to the Jedi Master.
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    Quote Originally posted by Maister View post
    Troubles a' brewin' and geek battle lines are being drawn. Where do your loyalties lie? Choose sides and let the battle begin!
    Best. Article. Ever.

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    Quote Originally posted by otterpop View post
    I am definitely in the Star Trek camp. It is a bit more cerebral. The storyline spreads over decades. And the villains are so much better - the slimy Cardassians, the comical Ferrengi, the inscrutable Romulans, the warlike Klingons and the almost unstoppable Borg.
    I feel the same way. Star Trek also brought up alot more social themes during it's episodes, which I think helped the franchise.

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    Star Trek all the way. My dad sat me down when I was an infant to watch the original series. It spawned how many movies and tv series? It delved into social/racial/plotical/sexual issues. It spent 40+years pushing the envelope. Star Wars, and lets face it, the first 3 movies were the best. The final 3 were an anti-climatic push to end we all knew. Their only redeeming feature was that Greek Tragedy feel to them.. I liked the grand sweep of the movies and Yoda was great. However, Star Trek presented us worlds we wanted to live in. They gave us hope that we could overcome the problems that dog us to this day.
    When did I go from Luke Skywalker to Obi-Wan Kenobi?

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    Quote Originally posted by otterpop View post
    I am definitely in the Star Trek camp. It is a bit more cerebral. The storyline spreads over decades. And the villains are so much better - the slimy Cardassians, the comical Ferrengi, the inscrutable Romulans, the warlike Klingons and the almost unstoppable Borg.

    What kind of villains does Star Wars have? A tall dude in a mask and cape with asthma and an evil Empire that gets their ass handed to them by a bunch of pre-Bronze Age teddy bears with teeth, a whinny teenager with daddy issues, and a wizened midget with dyslexia.

    While I enjoyed Princess Leia in her iconic golden bikini, Seven of Nine in a catsuit is way hotter.
    I disagree and believe Star Wars is better. More epic. I mean, Tribbles? Please. Riardo Montelban as a villian? Please. A gangster planet? Ple ... never mind. But I do agree about Seven of Nine.

    And you misspelled "Kardashian"

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    Star Trek. Hey, I grew up with the original series and my dad and I watched it every week and rest of the family thought we were nuts. I loved the first 3 Star Wars movies (in the order in which they were released) but the last 3 were, well, not so much fun. Dull, boring, overblown on special effects comes to mind.

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    Quote Originally posted by Otis View post
    I disagree and believe Star Wars is better. More epic. I mean, Tribbles? Please.
    What's wrong with Tribbles?

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    The question I have pondered about the original Star Trek series was this: Was Scotty the best engineer in Star Fleet or the worst? Seemed whenever Kirk needed the Enterprise to escape quickly, Scotty was yelling "I cahn't get any powaar, Capt'in." Klingons are attacking, and the shields are down and the photon torpedoes are not working . Oh sure at the last possible minute, Scotty pulls it together and they get away or give the enemy a broadside of firepower, but it can't look good on his performance evaluation.

    Is he an engineering genius or an incompetent career soldier?

    Or maybe it isn't his fault. Maybe when the ship was to be designed and constructed, Fiat was the low bidder.
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    Shatner is/was a tool.
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    Quote Originally posted by dw914er View post
    What's wrong with Tribbles?
    What's wrong with Tribbles?!? Dammit, Jim, I'm a doctor, not a veterinarian.

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    Quote Originally posted by btrage View post
    Shatner is/was a tool.

    But a very entertaining one.

    Anyone ever hear that clip of Shatner in studio recording a commercial or something where the engineer tried to tell him he was doing it wrong? Classic Shatner.

    He's kind of an oxymoron... a sort of charismatic jerkwad.

    That said, you people are NUTZ for thinking Star Trek is even comparable to Star Wars.
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    Quote Originally posted by Otis View post
    I disagree and believe Star Wars is better. More epic. I mean, Tribbles? Please. Riardo Montelban as a villian? Please. A gangster planet? Ple ... never mind. But I do agree about Seven of Nine.

    And you misspelled "Kardashian"
    I really need you to take back what you said about Ricardo Montelban. I just do. And I think that as penance he should be your avatar for one week.
    "...I would never try to tick Hink off. He kinda intimidates me. He's quite butch, you know." - Maister

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    Quote Originally posted by ursus View post
    I really need you to take back what you said about Ricardo Montelban. I just do. And I think that as penance he should be your avatar for one week.
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    Quote Originally posted by Otis View post
    I disagree and believe Star Wars is better. More epic. I mean, Tribbles? Please. Riardo Montelban as a villian? Please. A gangster planet? Ple ... never mind. But I do agree about Seven of Nine.

    And you misspelled "Kardashian"

    Star Wars! Pah! "Oh I am so mixed up. Daddy cut off my hand and I almost french-kissed my sister."

    I like real villians who are bad to the bone. Darth had promise, but in the end, without any real explanation or motive, he figures out he's on the losing end and switches teams.

    At least Khan went down like a man cursing his enemy in defeat and definace, rather than turning into a p**sy,
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    I didn't realize there were so many nerds around this place. Are we gonna start playing Dungeons & Dragons soon? Geez!!!
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    Quote Originally posted by otterpop View post
    At least Khan went down like a man cursing his enemy in defeat and definace, rather than turning into a p**sy,
    Someone needs to tell that Moby Dick quotin' mofo he was further ahead hawking "genuine Corinthian leather" (need an oldster here to provide us with the appropriate youtube link)

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    Quote Originally posted by btrage View post
    I didn't realize there were so many nerds around this place. Are we gonna start playing Dungeons & Dragons soon? Geez!!!
    Next they'll be debating the relative merits of light sabers vs. the sword of Azeroth.
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    I'm on the side of Star Trek. For the simple fact that the volume of "filmed" product produced by the franchise outweighs the volume from Star Wars, and that volume has the effect of creating a 2:10 ratio of bad to good for Star Trek, where Star Wars is at about even for bad to good output (Ep 4-6 = good, Ep.1-3 = bad).
    I'm sorry. Is my bias showing?

    The ends can justify the means.

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    So this is really about the difference in vision of the future between Gene Roddenberry vs George Lucas.
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    Quote Originally posted by JNA View post
    So this is really about the difference in vision of the future between Gene Roddenberry vs George Lucas.

    Pfft. You know nothing, clearly. Star Wars was based in the past, duh! Didn't you like go to college?!?!?!
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    Quote Originally posted by Tarf View post
    Pfft. You know nothing, clearly. Star Wars was based in the past, duh! Didn't you like go to college?!?!?!
    Do you know nothing about parallel universes, quantum mechanics and string theory? If it existed in the past, it also exists in the future...duh
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