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    It will be fascinating to see what happens with the current players on the team and those with letters of intent. That would be an interesting project to follow these players for the next 10 years to see where they go or stay and what happens after graduation. For the best of the best on the team who are looking at an NFL bid, why would they stay? I see the next 4 years of PSU football being full of guys who like to play the game, but don't have intentions to go pro.

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    So 1/3 of the Legends Division is not eligible for bowl games now.
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    I wonder if the Big-10 kicks PSU out now.

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    Quote Originally posted by hilldweller View post
    I wonder if the Big-10 kicks PSU out now.
    Won't happen. They are a strong university, with lots of other sports that are great.
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    Alright, enough about the PSU scandal.. who do you guys think will win the National title in 2012-13?

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    Quote Originally posted by hilldweller View post
    Alright, enough about the PSU scandal.. who do you guys think will win the National title in 2012-13?
    I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it will be a team from the SEC
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    Quote Originally posted by btrage View post
    I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it will be a team from the SEC
    Not this year.

    I am putting money on USC, Oregon, or *Shutter* Michigan.


    Although LSU is amazing this year....
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    Quote Originally posted by michaelskis View post
    For the best of the best on the team who are looking at an NFL bid, why would they stay? I see the next 4 years of PSU football being full of guys who like to play the game, but don't have intentions to go pro.

    It might not be the death penalty, but it is more like a slow, painful beating.
    I see where you are coming from but I just don't see how this is all that bad. Even with "only" 65 scholarship players I still think they are head and shoulders above programs like Indiana, Washington State, and Duke, not to mention the FBS teams in mid-major divisions. There are mediocre players at most D1 schools that were never offered scholarships at top programs like Penn State and they seem to do alright. Iowa State vs. Okie State. Appalachian State vs Michigan, etc. The bowl ban is what I think hurts them the most - guys want to play in a bowl game and have a chance to make an impression on the national football landscape. I doubt upperclassmen would transfer out at this point for three reasons. First, others teams probably have their scholarships filled at this point. Secondly, It's hard to learn a new system from new coaches in just one year. Finally, they have built a team up and it's not easy to leave those guys regardless of the bowl ban. If you are NFL-bound why would you leave a system you are familiar with and can perform well in to be hit-or-miss with another team and possibly lower your draft status? I'm not saying Penn State will play "to their standards" for the next five years but they will still be better than half of the other D1 programs.
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    Quote Originally posted by Hink View post
    Not this year.

    I am putting money on USC, Oregon, or *Shutter* Michigan.
    Michigan would have to get past Alabama week 1 in Dallas. Not happening IMO, especially with Touissant suspended for his DUI.

    USC will be great, and I think they'll beat Oregon again this year. My pick is Alabama (for the second year in a row).

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    Quote Originally posted by hilldweller View post
    Alright, enough about the PSU scandal.. who do you guys think will win the National title in 2012-13?
    I think the championship game will be USC vs. USC...with the winner being USC.
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    Quote Originally posted by Planit View post
    So 1/3 of the Legends Division is not eligible for bowl games now.
    It's the Leaders Division, actually. This opens up a small window of opportunity for those other schools in the division to rise up a little at least into the middle echelon of the B1G where Wisconsin and Iowa now lie.
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    The fallout on the grid iron is starting to occur: One of Penn State's top recruits for 2013 has already switched his commitment from PSU to the University of Michigan.

    I think we will see quite a few more of these types of scenarios, where those with letters of intent or underclassmen jump ship, happen pretty quickly. I don't think many of the upperclassmen, who have already invested a few years on the field with Penn State and who have proven their mettle will leave Happy Valley. If they have a legitimate chance of making it to the NFL, they are already on the radars of the scouts and getting one or two extra bowl games really won't make much of a difference for them at this point.
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    Quote Originally posted by Rygor View post
    It's the Leaders Division, actually. This opens up a small window of opportunity for those other schools in the division to rise up a little at least into the middle echelon of the B1G where Wisconsin and Iowa now lie.
    Is that a jab at UW? I'd put Wisconson at the top of the B1G as defending conference champions.

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    Quote Originally posted by Rygor View post
    It's the Leaders Division, actually.


    You are correct sir, my bad.

    Leaders, Legends, whatever...get real conference names.
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    Quote Originally posted by Planit View post
    You are correct sir, my bad.

    Leaders, Legends, whatever...get real conference names.
    Like East and West Real clever.....
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    Quote Originally posted by Hink View post
    Like East and West Real clever.....
    But at least you know (or have a better guess) which division a school is in. Arkansas would not be in the east, Georgia would not be in the west - that's easy to figure out.
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    Penn State now leads with the most vacated wins in NCAA (A dubious honor indeed). 'Bama is also near the top, but the seasons/wins they vacated were in successive years.

    http://deadspin.com/5929290/here-are...llege-football



    (Florida is not on this list, but Florida State is..tied with osu)
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    Did the NCAA not vacate wins as a punishment back in the 1980s and earlier?

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    10. (tie) Georgia Tech

    Seasons with vacated wins: 2009
    Total wins vacated: 1

    The Georgia Tech football team had a good year in 2009, going 11-3 and winning the ACC. Unfortunately, the team was forced to vacate its conference title game win because one of the players on the team had received $312 worth of clothes from a professional sports agent. That makes perfect sense, I guess.
    Even I think that's idiotic on the part of the NCAA...and that's saying a lot.
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    Today, USAToday published the Preseason Top 25 poll, let's see how it compares with SI's Way Too Early poll:

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    Your wish is my demand................

    Sports Illustrated's Andy Staples has already put out his "Way Too Early 2012 Rankings" and they are as follows:

    1. Louisiana State Tigers
    2. Southern California Trojans
    3. Oregon Ducks
    4. Arkansas Razorbacks
    5. Alabama Crimson Tide
    6. Michigan State Spartans
    7. South Carolina Gamecocks
    8. Oklahoma Sooners
    9. Georgia Bulldawgs
    10. Texas Christian Horned Frogs
    11. Michigan Wolverines
    12. Wisconsin Badgers
    13. West Virginia Mountaineers
    14. Clemson Tigers
    15. Kansas State Wildcats
    16. Nebraska Cornhuskers
    17. Florida State Seminoles
    18. Virginia Teck Hokies
    19. Boise State Broncos
    20. Stanford Cardinal
    21. Texas Longhorns
    22. Notre Dame Irish
    23. Auburn Tigers
    24. Oklahoma State Cowboys
    25. Georgia Tech Yellowjackets
    1. LSU Tigers
    2. Alabama Crimson Tide
    3. Southern Cal Trojans
    4. Oklahoma Sooners
    5. Oregon Ducks
    6.Georgia Bulldawgs
    7. Florida State Seminoles
    8. Michigan Wolverines
    9. South Carolina Gamecocks
    10. Arkansas Razorbacks
    11. West Virginia Mountianeers
    12. Wisconsin Badgers
    13. Michigan State Spartans
    14. Clemson Tigers
    15. Texas Longhorns
    16. Nebraska Cornhuskers
    17. Texas Christian Horny Frogs
    18. Stanford Cardinal
    19. Oklahoma State Cowboys
    20. Virginia Tech Hokies
    21. Kansas State Wildcats
    22. Boise State Broncos
    23. Florida Gators
    24. Notre Dame Irish
    25. Auburn Tigers

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colle...l/coaches-poll
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    Quote Originally posted by Planit View post
    Today, USAToday published the Preseason Top 25 poll, let's see how it compares with SI's Way Too Early poll:



    1. LSU Tigers
    2. Alabama Crimson Tide
    3. Southern Cal Trojans
    4. Oklahoma Sooners
    5. Oregon Ducks
    6.Georgia Bulldawgs
    7. Florida State Seminoles
    8. Michigan Wolverines
    9. South Carolina Gamecocks
    10. Arkansas Razorbacks
    11. West Virginia Mountianeers
    12. Wisconsin Badgers
    13. Michigan State Spartans
    14. Clemson Tigers
    15. Texas Longhorns
    16. Nebraska Cornhuskers
    17. Texas Christian Horny Frogs
    18. Stanford Cardinal
    19. Oklahoma State Cowboys
    20. Virginia Tech Hokies
    21. Kansas State Wildcats
    22. Boise State Broncos
    23. Florida Gators
    24. Notre Dame Irish
    25. Auburn Tigers

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colle...l/coaches-poll
    Looks a lot like last year's preseason poll, except for Michigan being ranked so high. Don't have any major arguments with it though.

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    Quote Originally posted by hilldweller View post
    Looks a lot like last year's preseason poll, except for Michigan being ranked so high. Don't have any major arguments with it though.
    Michigan won't be that high for long after they get Rolled by 'Bama in Dallas.
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    Quote Originally posted by btrage View post
    Michigan won't be that high for long after they get Rolled by 'Bama in Dallas.
    Tis' true. That game will be ugly.

    As for USC and Oregon- these teams don't play anyone all year (except each other). The rest of the PAC-whatever-it-is is an absolute joke.

    USC's schedule:
    Sept. 1 -- Hawaii
    Sept. 8 -- vs. Syracuse (@ E. Rutherford, N.J.)
    Sept. 15 -- at Stanford
    Sept. 22 -- California
    Oct. 4 (Th.) -- at Utah
    Oct. 13 -- at Washington
    Oct. 20 -- Colorado
    Oct. 27 -- at Arizona
    Nov. 3 -- Oregon
    Nov. 10 -- Arizona State
    Nov. 17 -- at UCLA
    Nov. 24 -- Notre Dame

    Look out for that tough non-conference game against Syracuse in New Jersey... seriously does SU play D-1 football anymore?

    Oregon's schedule might actually be worse:

    September 1: Arkansas State at Oregon
    September 8: Fresno State at Oregon
    September 15: Tennessee Tech at Oregon
    September 22: Arizona at Oregon
    September 29: Oregon at Washington State
    October 6: Washington at Oregon
    October 18: Oregon at Arizona State
    October 27: Colorado at Oregon
    November 3: Oregon at USC
    November 10: Oregon at California
    November 17: Stanford at Oregon
    November 24: Oregon at Oregon State

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    hilldweller, those look like big10 schedules - playing absolutely no one.
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    Quote Originally posted by Planit View post
    hilldweller, those look like big10 schedules - playing absolutely no one.
    The Big-10 is going to deeper/tougher than the Pac 12 this year though IMO, so at least the in-conference games will be tough. I actually think Ohio St. should have been on the preseason top-25 list (and I'm absolutely not saying that to suck up to Hink).

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