Errrrr....... Nebraska, Kansas, North and South Dakota aren't part of the Midwest, they're part of the Great Plains.Originally posted by hilldweller
Errrrr....... Nebraska, Kansas, North and South Dakota aren't part of the Midwest, they're part of the Great Plains.
When did I go from Luke Skywalker to Obi-Wan Kenobi?
Midwestern culture is found in parts of those states, I don't think state lines are the be all end all for where midwestern culture exists. I have family in eastern and western/central Nebraska...and there is a difference.Errrrr....... Nebraska, Kansas, North and South Dakota aren't part of the Midwest, they're part of the Great Plains.
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Very true. My dad grew up near Cincinnati (Miamitown) and we still have a lot of family down in the area and I would consider that part of Ohio more "Appalachian" than "Midwest" especially in terms of economy and culture. The Cincinnati area seems a world away from the Celveland or Toledo areas.
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Nebraska is a midwestern state according to wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midwestern_United_States
I appreciate the irony that as an east coast person, my post above is lodged in the middle, and forgotten completely, by posts about flyover states, I mean the midwest and great plains...
This is not the first time we have had this arguement on here...I agree with you and Wikipedia!
The interesting thing to me about the 'midwest' is so many different ethnic groups settled there and because of the rural nature, much of that culture is still in tact. My family for example that settled in central Nebraska was Scottish and our family still exhibits some of that cultural identity.
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On some web forums discussions about the abortion debate go on and on. Others its Edward vs Jacob. On Cyburbia I would swear the Debate Without End is 'which states belong to the [fill in the blank] region'
People will miss that it once meant something to be Southern or Midwestern. It doesn't mean much now, except for the climate. The question, “Where are you from?” doesn't lead to anything odd or interesting. They live somewhere near a Gap store, and what else do you need to know? - Garrison Keillor
Marsha, Marsha, Marsha....I appreciate the irony that as an east coast person, my post above is lodged in the middle, and forgotten completely, by posts about flyover states, I mean the midwest and great plains...
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Marsha, Marsha, Marsha....
Whoah, dude! I just realized that if the United States was like the Brady Bunch, the East Coast would be like Marsha, the midwest would be Jan and the West would be Cindy.Think about it...
oh, and do you plan to Bogart that thing all day?
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People will miss that it once meant something to be Southern or Midwestern. It doesn't mean much now, except for the climate. The question, “Where are you from?” doesn't lead to anything odd or interesting. They live somewhere near a Gap store, and what else do you need to know? - Garrison Keillor
Marsha, Marsha, Marsha....Okay thank you for making me randomly laught out loud in my office much to the raised eyebrows of my new co workers - omg too funny
Whoah, dude! I just realized that if the United States was like the Brady Bunch, the East Coast would be like Marsha, the midwest would be Jan and the West would be Cindy.
oh, and do you plan to Bogart that thing all day?
Tis true, but these are the kind of things geeky planner-types argue about.On some web forums discussions about the abortion debate go on and on. Others its Edward vs Jacob. On Cyburbia I would swear the Debate Without End is 'which states belong to the [fill in the blank] region'
I see your point. I cannot speak for Kansas, since I've only been to the northeast tip of the state. I would say that Nebraska and the Dakotas are both the Great Plains and the Midwest if taken in their entirety. The western parts of those three states are part of the Interior West - largely unforested, arid, rolling prairie, island mountain ranges (South Dakota) and badlands. There is more of a Western culture in the western part of the states than you find in the eastern parts of those states.Errrrr....... Nebraska, Kansas, North and South Dakota aren't part of the Midwest, they're part of the Great Plains.
That point of cutoff is a matter of debate. Walter Prescott Webb, in his book The Great Plains demarcated it at the 100th meridian in the southwest and the 98th in the northwest parts of the US. This line separates the Midwest from the Great Plains.
This is where settlers encountered an "institutional fault." That is, an area where the rules and practices of those settlers coming East met physical and societal challenges that had to be addressed differently than they were back East. For example, encountering fierce opposition of the native inhabitants (Native Americans and grizzly bears). they needed to develop better firearms (Colt revolver and Winchester and Sharps rifles). Also without much timber to rely on, they had to develop fencing that required less wood (barbed wire), housing of different materials and fuel their fires with bois de vache (wood of the cow)
In my travels across the Dakotas and Nebraska I've seen the country change as I drove. When you get to the Sand Hills of Nebraska you know you are in the West. Scott's Bluff tells you that you left the Midwest some time ago. For me, I draw that murky north-south line at Kearny, Nebraska.
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so when does this debate get the boot from this thread - this is not random, it's crazy and deserves its own place in crazy
Doesn't the east coast of the U.S. end around Boston? You're more like the southeast coast of Canada.I appreciate the irony that as an east coast person, my post above is lodged in the middle, and forgotten completely, by posts about flyover states, I mean the midwest and great plains...
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*poof*
People will miss that it once meant something to be Southern or Midwestern. It doesn't mean much now, except for the climate. The question, “Where are you from?” doesn't lead to anything odd or interesting. They live somewhere near a Gap store, and what else do you need to know? - Garrison Keillor
Meh..
Brotip #2418 - know when it's time to switch from being "the little engine that could" to the "little engine that said, 'f*ck it'"
don't drag me into this grazy train dearie -
the midwest starts at the hudson to a true NY-er/Bostonian
east coast are all states from Florida to Maine that have frontage on the Atlantic
all the states listed above are flyover states
thanks doll - now make me a martini, will you?
Raf, you rock!
What's Omaha like this time of year?
Thanks Maister for making me lead post in this trainwreck.
When did I go from Luke Skywalker to Obi-Wan Kenobi?
No problem, Bro. You earned it.
People will miss that it once meant something to be Southern or Midwestern. It doesn't mean much now, except for the climate. The question, “Where are you from?” doesn't lead to anything odd or interesting. They live somewhere near a Gap store, and what else do you need to know? - Garrison Keillor
'Raf that was awesome....
Not mine, but pretty bang on from a NY/NJ perspective http://www.funnyordie.com/articles/a...y-a-new-yorker
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Raf-I expected a bubble plan and what's with Colorado?
I really like the term "Corn 'n Rust" sounds like college town bar in the, gulp, Midwest
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Ya know, I should stay out of this thread since I don't live in the Midwest anymore, be that Scottsbluff or Bismarck, or Garden City, or Cincinnati
When did I go from Luke Skywalker to Obi-Wan Kenobi?
Yea.. i noticed i forgot that one:
"Southpark/Ski and Beer State"
Brotip #2418 - know when it's time to switch from being "the little engine that could" to the "little engine that said, 'f*ck it'"
I think culture is more tied to geography and terrain, not state lines.
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