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    Should we repeal the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments?

    I figured since we seem to be revisiting Constitutional issues that were settled a century or more ago, it just seemed logical to point out that the three 'Reconstruction' Amendments took rights away from the states too. Damn that Federal government!
    People will miss that it once meant something to be Southern or Midwestern. It doesn't mean much now, except for the climate. The question, “Where are you from?” doesn't lead to anything odd or interesting. They live somewhere near a Gap store, and what else do you need to know? - Garrison Keillor

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    Definitely. I need to have my freedoms to run my plantation how I want. Darn all this uncertainty!!!!
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    Quote Originally posted by Maister View post
    I figured since we seem to be revisiting Constitutional issues that were settled a century or more ago, it just seemed logical to point out that the three 'Reconstruction' Amendments took rights away from the states too. Damn that Federal government!
    Explain to me how these took any rights away from the states? If anything, it gave people more freedom... not less.
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    I am just waiting for the brave soul who starts the "Should we repeal the 19th Amendment" thread. And that would not be me.
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    Quote Originally posted by michaelskis View post
    Explain to me how these took any rights away from the states? If anything, it gave people more freedom... not less.
    For decades states used to have the right to individually decide whether or not they would permit slavery (usually invoking the 10th Amendment in support/justification; a decision upheld in the landmark Dred Scott decision). Then along came the Big Bad Federal Government and revoked that right from a certain group of states, essentially at gunpoint. This act of Federal Government overreach sent the states righters reeling for over a century, but they've slowly been making a return in recent decades.
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    Get rid of teh pesky Fourth and Fourteenth. These are planners' nightmares. I just get sick and tired of developers moaning about 'takings'; and citizens griping about 'due process'. Think of all we could accomplish if these impediments were gone.

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    Quote Originally posted by otterpop View post
    I am just waiting for the brave soul who starts the "Should we repeal the 19th Amendment" thread. And that would not be me.
    Well this guy seems to have you covered:

    http://www.lvrj.com/blogs/mitchell/T...Amendment.html


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    Quote Originally posted by btrage View post
    George Bush doesn't care about black people.
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    Quote Originally posted by otterpop View post
    I am just waiting for the brave soul who starts the "Should we repeal the 19th Amendment" thread. And that would not be me.
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    As long as the 21st Amendment isn't repealed, I'm good.
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    I'll bet the GOP was rueing the day they forced the 22nd Amendment through right about the time Reagan's second term was drawing to a close.
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    Quote Originally posted by Maister View post
    For decades states used to have the right to individually decide whether or not they would permit slavery (usually invoking the 10th Amendment in support/justification; a decision upheld in the landmark Dred Scott decision). Then along came the Big Bad Federal Government and revoked that right from a certain group of states, essentially at gunpoint. This act of Federal Government overreach sent the states righters reeling for over a century, but they've slowly been making a return in recent decades.
    Are you saying that you would like to see slavery return?

    That 'right' was something that was highly debated during the drafting of the constitution and repealing slavery was actually in several early versions but was eliminated so the south would sign. It is funny because while we no longer allow a person to own another person (an increase in freedom), we allow the federal government to require us to purchase something or be taxed for failing to do so (decrease of freedom).

    There are things in this world that are inherently wrong. Owning another human, killing another human (born or unborn), and stealing are just three that the federal government has permitted at one time or another.
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