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    ISO modern, simple sign code

    Our sign code is old and cumbersome. Do you have a great example of a modern simple code that I can adapt for use in our town?
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    Quote Originally posted by giff57 View post
    Our sign code is old and cumbersome. Do you have a great example of a modern simple code that I can adapt for use in our town?
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    I'll post the sign regulations I wrote for an Austin suburb tomorrow; short, strict, simple, content neutral, and Plain English. (That was, until it was amended a few months ago, and some "saids" were plopped in there.

    In the meantime, a lot of municipal attorneys seem enamored with the sign code from Hopkins, Minnesota. I took a good, long look at it, and it's awful. It's not just the legalese; it's just a bad code that will cause more problems than it supposedly solves. If you happen to get the Hopkins code foisted on you as a model of regulatory excellence, drop me a line, and I'll send you my memo ripping it apart.
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    Quote Originally posted by Richmond Jake View post
    It does not exist.
    I think all of us are ISO such an animal. IME they start out simple and get amended into mishmash.
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    There is one key element to craft a "simple" code; do not reference other sections of code that sends readers on a hunt. Sign codes, more than anything, change and update more than any other code you will work with. Signs pop up on skinny metal poles and banners and anything else you can think of. Sign codes are awful, awful creatures and the person who can create a simple and agreed-upon code will be a millionaire.
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    Quote Originally posted by Richmond Jake View post
    It does not exist.
    You're a lot of help...
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    Quote Originally posted by Dan View post
    I'll post the sign regulations I wrote for an Austin suburb tomorrow; short, strict, simple, content neutral, and Plain English. (That was, until it was amended a few months ago, and some "saids" were plopped in there.

    In the meantime, a lot of municipal attorneys seem enamored with the sign code from Hopkins, Minnesota. I took a good, long look at it, and it's awful. It's not just the legalese; it's just a bad code that will cause more problems than it supposedly solves. If you happen to get the Hopkins code foisted on you as a model of regulatory excellence, drop me a line, and I'll send you my memo ripping it apart.
    That would be great Dan, Thanks
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    Quote Originally posted by giff57 View post
    That would be great Dan, Thanks
    As though it really needs an endorsement, but I'm familiar with Dan's sign code and it is pretty excellent.

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    It has been a while sinve I have had to deal with sign codes. When I last did my searching I drew from many different codes, but the one that stood out was Davis, CA. The thing I likes best was that they gave themselves an escape clause to be able to suspend the code to approve signs that had exceptional merit, but might not fall within the standards of the code.
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    Thanks Dan. I had forgotten how funny a lot of the pictures were that you used. This is the only sign code that has a sense of humor.

    "Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."

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