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    Quote Originally posted by hilldweller View post
    What's to stop the ATF from tunneling under the walls?
    Was thinking along the lines that the whole place won't be burned down.

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    Quote Originally posted by dvdneal View post
    does my out house have to concrete as well?
    You might be able to obtain approval for a wooden outhouse, but you'd probably have to get a variance from the Patriotic Board of Appeals first.
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    Quote Originally posted by hilldweller View post
    What's to stop the ATF from tunneling under the walls?
    They would just be tunneling into the Freedom Dungeon. And we all know what goes on in there....
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    Why do you people hate America. Our kids would be safe in these communities. Sure, they may have no idea how to interact with people when they leave the compound, but they would be safe, safe, safe!!!!
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    Quote Originally posted by ofos View post
    Would it be too much to ask to build another bridge to Canada? That omission is pretty short-sighted.
    Can't do it. The freighters would never fit there and the bridge landings would never be large enough for the elevation increase as well as the space needed for customs and immigration.
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    I love the article from The Atlantic
    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...ar-15s/267126/

    The closing is the best part...
    "...And if it's "patriotic" to inhabit an application-only city I don't see how.

    If it's ever built, I'd advise against moving to The Citadel. I think its imprudent to surround yourself entirely with people from a narrow slice of the political spectrum; nonsensical to dedicate so many resources to self-defense when you're living in rural Idaho, and your odds of being a victim of crime or invasion is extremely low; and foolhardy to raise your kids in a place where they'll be miserable unless they happen to share both your politics and enthusiasm for gun culture. (Plus, if you trust the incorruptibility of a private arbitration board ... exactly why do you?)..."

    Happy reading.
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    Recently saw this article, not that it's a surprise.
    http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/0...triot-project/
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    Jon Stewart did a segment on this place and Glen Beck's version of it last night. Was pretty funny to see Glen Beck pretty much espouse new urbanist values for his community.

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    Quote Originally posted by Blide View post
    Jon Stewart did a segment on this place and Glen Beck's version of it last night. Was pretty funny to see Glen Beck pretty much espouse new urbanist values for his community.
    I was thinking how much funnier and succinct he was at eviscerating the idea than the comment threads I have seen across The Interwebs. We should have a bookmarked link to the vid from that show handy, ready to go.
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    They made the Jon Stewart show, I wonder how they will react to that

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    Just a few questions:

    1. why are there gated subdivisions WITHIN the gated community? Do they foresee a need to defend themselves against themselves? Will the 5 gated subdivisions be cultivated as rivals.. with the opportunity to lay siege to each other?

    2. the commons look to be quite extensive. Who will maintain them? Isn't an HOA socialist? wouldn't association dues constitute a form of taxation and therefore violate the community's rules?

    3. Why the unit type mixing? It seems that each of the 5 single family subdivisions will have, within their gated areas, multi-unit buildings inset into their respective portions of the overall communuty wall. Wouldn't it be better from their point of view to put the lower income units in their own subdivision, perhaps with a gate that can only be opened from outside.. and guard towers and flood lights?

    4. Is there enough parking? In keeping with the spirit of the place, shouldn't the living areas be surrounded by vast surface parking lots?

    5. The bungalows or whatever they are in the town center seems awfully dense and New Urbanish to me. main street style shops along the streets lining the main cross-roads? Shouldn't there be a strip mall instead?

    6. Where is there room for the Wal Mart? Surely, these people will need a Wal Mart?

    7. Where is the shooting range?

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    I see a resurgence of a good ole medieval sieige in the future. The ATF outside the walls, armed with catapults and trebuchets (borrowed from the good people who participate in Punkin Chunkin), flinging dead, rotting cows, pumpkins, garbage and medical waste over the walls of the Citadel. The residents will be up on the walls, taunting the ATF in Monty Pythonesque fashion.

    Could be great fun. I look forward to it.
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    Quote Originally posted by otterpop View post
    I see a resurgence of a good ole medieval sieige in the future. The ATF outside the walls, armed with catapults and trebuchets (borrowed from the good people who participate in Punkin Chunkin), flinging dead, rotting cows, pumpkins, garbage and medical waste over the walls of the Citadel. The residents will be up on the walls, taunting the ATF in Monty Pythonesque fashion.

    Could be great fun. I look forward to it.
    Until the Giant hollow gun is crafted by the ATF and given as a gift... only to have it brought inside and all the ATF agents jump out... oh how they would get them....
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    We decided to make the jump and spent our life savings to move here. Looking forward to experiencing freedom at the highest levels imaginable, all while living heavily armed in the finest bunkers money can buy!

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    As long as they don't know where I am, they can't infringe on my liberty and freedom.

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    Has anything happened on this little piece of heaven? Have they broken ground or are they just breaking wind?
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