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    All things Sherlock Holmes

    What is it about the Shelock Holmes and Dr. Watson characters that makes them so enduring? Sir Arthur Conan Doyle created the characters back in the 1880's and they've made countless tv shows, radio dramas, movies, cartoons, stories, plays etc featuring that duo (or blatantly copied - the Doyle family still maintains rights to the characters even to this day).

    I admit I have always liked the Sherlock Holmes character. His eccentricities are amusing, his deductive powers border on the supernatural, yet he is flawed too and suffered from egotism and also partook of cocaine and opium out of boredom. Screenwriters these days seem to like to focus on the question of why did Dr. Watson put up with all his crap?

    Anyway, are you more of a classic Basil Rathbone Holmes fan or are you partial to Robert Downey Jr.'s portrayal?
    Who are your favorite Sherlock Holmes?
    Why do you think Sherlock Holmes resonates so strongly, even today?
    Have you actually read any of the Sherlock Holmes stories written by Conan Doyle?
    Is the world ready for a female Sherlock Holmes-ian character?

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    I'm a junkie for Holmes. There's not a "Holmes" version or remake that I don't enjoy. Not one, though my favorites are the Grenada TV series with Jeremy Bret. Don't know why. Love the new "Sherlock", love the Downey Jr. movies, love the old Basil Rathbone, love my complete copy as published in the "Strand".

    I read "The Hound of the Baskervilles" one summer when I was 13 or 14 house-sitting a place during the days. Immediate love.

    I even love the sort-of "Holmesian" inspired detective genre. The "flawed genius" deals like Monk or Psych. The world is ready for a female Sherlock Holmes. Definitely.
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    I don't think I've ever consumed anything having to do with Sherlock. I guess it just never attracted me. I have caught a few moments of the recent Downey movies and they looked pretty good, but I still don't care if I see the entire movies.

    As a kid, I was more into fantasy books and movies, as opposed to mystery and cops/robbers. That's probably why I never got into Sherlock.
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    I am an avid Sherlock Holmes fan and have a collection of Basil Rathbone and Nigel Bruce (both audio and visual). At one point in my life, I even recreated a room to make it look like 221B Baker Street (good thing that Mrs Katt humors me)
    I just cant get into the later versions of Sherlock but I still do watch them (I just dont collect them) Over the years some of my friends and co-worker have ridiculed me and some have admitted that they two are Sherlock fans. I dont really know why I am a fan, I have tried but have never come up with and answer but as Mrs Katt says "it is harmless" and she knows when I am.

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    And yes I do have the books, bought them doing a PBS fund raiser

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    I was never much a fan of the orginal Sherlock, tho my dad is. I've enjoyed the recent incarnations of Sherlock. The BBC version is a pretty good update. The RDJ version is a good brain and eye candy. Plus their version Moirarty is who I see him actually being. Elementary is good and getting better. In this version, he's a brilliant, but cocky and obnoxious, Plus, I'm becoming Lucy Lui in a short skirt and tights fan.
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    I read the complete works by Arthur Conan Doyle all the way through in 7th grade. I think the character resonates with that part of us that wishes for everything to be knowable.

    Nigel Bruce.

    I don't think the new show Elementary works, but I'm glad they tried.
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    Based upon my dream last night I would have to say that Benedict Cumberbatch is my favorite Sherlock but he was kinda merged with Val Kilmer's Doc Holliday. I'm not a huge fan of Robert Downey Jr's Sherlock. Too over-the-top for my taste.

    I've never read any of the Sherlock Holmes. They're on my someday list but haven't gotten to them yet.
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    Quote Originally posted by Whose Yur Planner View post
    I was never much a fan of the orginal Sherlock, tho my dad is. I've enjoyed the recent incarnations of Sherlock. The BBC version is a pretty good update. The RDJ version is a good brain and eye candy. Plus their version Moirarty is who I see him actually being. Elementary is good and getting better. In this version, he's a brilliant, but cocky and obnoxious, Plus, I'm becoming Lucy Lui in a short skirt and tights fan.
    I haven't watched Elementary, but the ads during the Super Bowl make it look pretty good. I may have to check her.............I mean the show......out.
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    I enjoy Sherlock Holmes. Recently I saw Robert Downing Jr.'s take on it. I really enjoyed Jude Law's Dr. Watson, who had to kick the asses of the henchman while Holmes played it for yucks with the main villian.

    Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's brother-in-law - E. W. Hornung - created the Holmes antithesis - Raffles - the Gentleman Thief. From what I've read, Sir Doyle was not much amused at the dig.
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    Did anyone else see Elementary last night? (he asked knowingly)

    I tell ya it keeps getting better and better. The writers of this show are demonstrating their skill and we're already beginning to see concrete signs that this is going to be one of the best tv series around.

    A well written show of this sort needs to have 1) interesting plots each episode with a handful of twists so things do not fall easily into predictable patterns, and 2) character development and larger story arc themes that encompass an entire season. Right now the writers are gradually introducing all the classic elements of the Holmes-Watson mythos one show at a time e.g. a couple weeks ago we see the introduction of the name Moriarty, last week we find out about Watson's decision to continue working with Holmes (even though she is no longer his 'sobriety companion' much like Watson returned to assist Holmes after he had moved out and gotten married in the Conan Doyle universe).

    The writers evidently do not want Watson (a female played by Lucy Liu) to be perceived as weak. To that end, the character is now beginning training by Holmes into his remarkable methodology of induction. Also worthy of note, we have not really seen Watson in the position of being the proverbial damsel in distress. I like that.
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