wait for the poll now kids
Yes, it's embarrassing
Yes, I am a non- essential federal employee
Yes, i needed to get a new passport
Yes, those greedy dirty rotten bastards, all of them
Yes, the GOP sucks
Yes, but ACA sucks, so do what ya gotta do
No, I don't need Federal servicing anytime soon
No, Obama needed to call their bluff
No, the GOP needed to call Obama's bluff
No, whatever
I am still recovering from The Breaking Bad finale
I don't live in the USA and I find all this odd
Government, shut it down, man! Yeah!
Wait, what?
Other
This BS would probably have been avoided if Congress didn't get their paycheck
wait for the poll now kids
I care. I think the people who are being furloughed care. I think it is horrible governing when you allow something like this to happen.
To use the government shutdown as a political point is absurd and sad.
I hope they agree to something soon.
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I care, but mainly because the political scientist in me really just enjoys the drama (I also think that letting it get to this point is utterly absurd). I also care because I am headed to DC in a few weeks and want to check out a few of the sites while I am in town.
"Where free unions and collective bargaining are forbidden, freedom is lost." - 1980 Republican presidential candidate Ronald Reagan
Fucking tea bagger pigs. It's like watching my three year old throw a tantrum in the living room, minus the whole i am sorry and a hug. It is infuriating that people are being used as a pawn all because these idiots can't accept that a law, brain child of their party, was passed by the other party and a black man...
Go ahead, card me, but it's how i feel
When someone yells "stop", I ask myself if I should collaborate and listen...
The last time the GOP shut down the government was in 1996. It caused an economic hiccup, but the economy was doing much better back then and bounced back. It's likely the impacts will hurt much more today.
People will miss that it once meant something to be Southern or Midwestern. It doesn't mean much now, except for the climate. The question, “Where are you from?” doesn't lead to anything odd or interesting. They live somewhere near a Gap store, and what else do you need to know? - Garrison Keillor
For me, it depends on how long it is shut down. The part that really ticks me off is they all get paid.
Me: "I am sorry, but the Ordinance and the Master Plan does not permit that at this time. But if you would like to request amendments, this 355 page document outlines the procedure. You will need…. (CLIPPED TO ACCOMMODATE LIMIT) …. It will likely take 36 to 48 months to get final approvals. Then you can submit for a building permit and break ground Would you like to get started with the process?
Applicant: "Geeze, a simple No you can't do that would have worked"
While it may not directly affect me, I care...particularly as it relates to encouraging those to choose and aspire to a career of public service, especially those in the federal service.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...523_story.html
"Growth is inevitable and desirable, but destruction of community character is not. The question is not whether your part of the world is going to change. The question is how." -- Edward T. McMahon, The Conservation Fund
I voted "whatever", but the Congressional Republicans are a bunch of whiny, no-idea, tea party idiots.
At least during the shutdown of 95-96 it was over actual budget issues and the GOP held both houses of Congress.
This is disgusting and I question the moral integrity of anyone who thinks what the GOP is doing is a good thing.
I grew up in a Republican household, have voted Republican many times in my life. I truly have no idea what people see in the Republican Party today. While they do many things I don't agree with, at least the Democrats are not knee-jerk reactionaries hell bent on creating chaos. What a sad, sad day.
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany"
Meh. Ratsass.
“Death comes when memories of the past exceed the vision for the future.”
Right there with you brother.Originally posted by Raf
Fucking tea bagger pigs. It's like watching my three year old throw a tantrum in the living room, minus the whole i am sorry and a hug. It is infuriating that people are being used as a pawn all because these idiots can't accept that a law, brain child of their party, was passed by the other party and a black man...
Go ahead, card me, but it's how i feel
It shouldn't have ever come to this. At any rate, it's highly infuriating that they get paid for such shenanigans and the common folk get nothing and have to like it. I think we'd get a much faster resolution if congress is minus a paycheck.
"He defended the cause of the poor and needy, and so all went well. Is that not what it means to know me?" Jeremiah 22:16
I forgot to card you. Here you go...Fucking tea bagger pigs. It's like watching my three year old throw a tantrum in the living room, minus the whole i am sorry and a hug. It is infuriating that people are being used as a pawn all because these idiots can't accept that a law, brain child of their party, was passed by the other party and a black man...
Go ahead, card me, but it's how i feel
People will miss that it once meant something to be Southern or Midwestern. It doesn't mean much now, except for the climate. The question, “Where are you from?” doesn't lead to anything odd or interesting. They live somewhere near a Gap store, and what else do you need to know? - Garrison Keillor
agreed
I meant to add as a poll choice (attention moderators): I am only concerned I will be spamemd by all the inactive Federal Department social media accounts
Last edited by luckless pedestrian; 01 Oct 2013 at 10:46 AM. Reason: roayl flush - cool Maister and Raf
Gee I only had a 20% paycut at my first private-sector job right after I earned by AICP, so I was making far less than when I started at the company. Oh yeah, and then 4 months later I was laid off. THEN over the next 2 1/2 years I was laid off again TWO more time in two other states, nearly lost the shirt off my back and had to start over just like millions of other Americans. I am supposed to sit here and feel sorry that some federal employees are going without paychecks for a few days or weeks. DEAL WITH IT like the other >75% of the workforce who work in the private sector who lost FAR more over the past decade, business owners, employees, students, and retirees alike. If it's too much, get out of the federal government and look for a new job somewhere else. Employees should not be punished for employer's mistakes BUT they also need to know when it's time to leave.
"This is great, honey. What's the crunchy stuff?"
"M&Ms. I ran out of paprika."
Family Guy
You really love telling people about your work history don't you?
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany"
I agree with most of what you said. Thank you for speaking up!
Me: "I am sorry, but the Ordinance and the Master Plan does not permit that at this time. But if you would like to request amendments, this 355 page document outlines the procedure. You will need…. (CLIPPED TO ACCOMMODATE LIMIT) …. It will likely take 36 to 48 months to get final approvals. Then you can submit for a building permit and break ground Would you like to get started with the process?
Applicant: "Geeze, a simple No you can't do that would have worked"
I feel for the Fed government workers. Pissy politics screws them which I don't like. This shutdown directly affects vital government services that affects all citizens. Getting laid off by private companies is not the same thing.
Says the guy that was laid off by a municipality twice in 2 years and the sole household income. Get over yourself, nrschmid.
I'm sorry. Is my bias showing?
Well that justifies it then. Federal employee's shouldn't be paid, or be mad about the furloughs because you have a work history that includes being laid off numerous times.
The private sector has higher highs, and lower lows. The public sector shouldn't be used as a pawn in the partisan debate over costs / taxes / etc. Public sector workers deal with a lot more than private sector on a day to day basis. The fact that they are accountable to the taxpayer add even more joy to the job. Add in the fact that retirements are being gauged, articles are being written constantly about how overpaid they are, and the phone calls, and you have a pretty awesome situation.
So we should have all federal employee's leave? Is that the solution?
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My favorite description of our political economy, in 4 words:
Republicans crazy, Democrats incompetent.Viewed through this lens, it explains everything.
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Give a man a gun, and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank, and he can rob the world.
I think this situation is an embarrassing and ultimately an expensive inconvenience. I do feel for most of the Federal employees since most of the ones I have worked with have been great and really are just being used a political pawn (I have one car friend that is a huge tea partier that happens that works for the DoD and is thrilled about the shutdown, so he can be laid off since it is what he wants). I sorta figured that this would happen. The ultimatum was to get rid the ACA and, ideally, anything Obama related, plus, the group and their constituents hate the Government anyways, so the political posturing was a win-win on principle. Maybe they can pass a surplus budget that cuts Federal funding to all the tea party constituents that would have received its benefits.
And that concludes staff’s presentation...
What he said.Fucking tea bagger pigs. It's like watching my three year old throw a tantrum in the living room, minus the whole i am sorry and a hug. It is infuriating that people are being used as a pawn all because these idiots can't accept that a law, brain child of their party, was passed by the other party and a black man...
Go ahead, card me, but it's how i feel
We hope for better things; it will arise from the ashes - Fr Gabriel Richard 1805
Well, I guess I'm glad I never pursued that opportunity to go work for a federal agency. I have probably a half-dozen friends that are now officially furloughed due to this. Thankfully, all of them had started saving about two years ago when all of this shutdown talk really started to get serious so they should weather the storm.
I'm tired of these fucknuts in Washington. And I'm convinced this would have been avoided if Congress was led by someone other than a bunch of old white entitled guys. And I'm saying this admittedly as a white entitled guy.
Also, I feel obligated to apologize on behalf of my state again for Ted Cruz, who apparently didn't comprehend the actual plot of Green Eggs & Ham when he decided to bloviate on for 20 something hours. He is making Dubya and Perry look like fucking Rhodes Scholars.
Our government structure was designed in part to prevent tyranny of the majority. Unfortunately, I'm beginning to believe that the system has created tyranny by the minority in how a minority of teabaggers have shut the whole thing down.
"Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."
- Herman Göring at the Nuremburg trials (thoughts on democracy)
I think it is a shame that the country has to go through this on a regular basis because the members of Congress are a big bunch of partisan dirtbags. Rather than act like grownups and broker a deal (which is part of their jobs), they are going to make the public (who elected them) suffer through reduced services or no services.
Yeah. Shut down the national parks. Don't pay the air traffic controllers. Who needs them? Don't pay the securities and banking watchdogs either. Who needs them? This country could use a little less regulation and a little more financial mayhem and plane crashes. We need to support our body bag industry. And if we don't have those pesky watchdogs, our seniors will lose all their savings and die. Solves our social security and Medicare problems.
Okay, so you don't like the Affordable Care Act. It would really be a pity if you had to do such an unpleasant duty as obeying the law Congress passed. Waa Waa. Grow up, pull on your grownup pants and act like friggin adults. If you don't like the Affordable Care Act, quit your f#@$&*g whining, do your job, serve the country and come up with something better. And not something better for the insurance companies and medical corporations.
Every time I see a Republican senator or representive on TV he or she always looks so unhappy and mean-spirited. The last Republican I saw smile (except for the times they are taking a puppy from a child, kicking a homeless guy, or having just witnessed someone slipping on an icy sidewalk) was my Mom. She believed what she believed, but she also knew that everyone else had an opinion, some more left or more right than her own. She accepted that her way wasn't always going to be THE WAY. Did she like Obama? Nope. Did she think he was a good president? Probably no. Did she like the Affordable Care Act? Nope. But she accepted democracy for its bitter and sweet.
Playing the partisan gamesmanship like this is bad for the country. Shame on Congress.
So the long-winded answer to the question is yes, I care.
"I am very good at reading women, but I get into trouble for using the Braille method."
~ Otterpop ~
Getting laid off by private companies is not the same thing. Says the guy that was laid off by a municipality twice in 2 years and the sole household income. Get over yourself;
Well let's see...
No primary source of income
No continuing employer contributions to benefits (health insurance, retirement)
Paying out of pocket for COBRA
Eligibility for unemployment insurance
Starting a new job search
Depleting financial reserves to pay bills
What part(s) aren't the same between public and private sector?
"This is great, honey. What's the crunchy stuff?"
"M&Ms. I ran out of paprika."
Family Guy
You no longer designing subdivisions on AutoCAD is not going affect air traffic control, disease and medical research, regulating financial systems, etc, etc......
I'm sorry. Is my bias showing?
You have told and retold your "job history/story" so many times, you almost come across as a one trick pony. Sorry, maybe I'm just angry because people "ignore" me on Cyburbia.
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