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    Cyburbian SW MI Planner's avatar
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    On a lighter note...help me pick a puppy

    I am trying to convince the new hubbie that we need a puppy. I know everyone is biased toward their own pooch breed, but help me out...

    Here's what I am looking for:
    *A midsize dog, one that can be a comfortable lap dog but I can also take out on a walk without the fear of it being eaten by large squirrels. Maybe between 20-40 pounds (??)
    *An indoor dog for an average size house. We have a large fenced in back yard for lots of exercise
    *One that is good with children
    *One that is fairly trainable / obediant.
    *Somewhat energetic - not lazy not hyper
    *Don't want a super shedder - not super short hair, not long hair
    *Not big on schnauzers (no offense to anyone that has one)

    I think thats about it. Any suggestions?

    I wanted a dalmation and call it Chief (Chad's a fulltime prof. firefighter), but thought that would be too much a cliche Plus, I heard they are kind of hyper and not the best around kids. I do like Brittany Spaniels, so they may be an option.





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    Cockers are great with kids and easy to train. Your right stay away from dalmations-major problems there, hearing, back, shedding, aggression, not good with kids, destructive as all hell.

    why not check out your local dog pound or rescue groups? a rescue grayhound would be great-a bit larger but likes small spaces, calm, great with kids etc.

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    I would get a good ol' mixed breed. Its pretty heartbreaking to visit a local shelter.

    I would suggest basenjis, but they are pretty strange dogs. If your husband is more of a cat person, a basenji would be pretty good, as they are very cat-like. 20-25 pounds, very little shedding or doggy odor, and a good indoor dog. Check out Basenji Rescue and Transport

    However, they are not tractable at all and can be destructive if bored. They are weird dogs that are not for everybody. I have to admit, my plump Tasha is a love, though.

    GOOD LUCK!

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    IMHO -

    Lower your expectations of finding the perfect puppy, purchase Dogs for Dummies and get a pound puppy. Your rescued dog will spend his or her whole life thanking you. And enjoy.

    Don't forget to crate train and get a Halti!

    Good luck!
    el Guapo is a former 20 year +/- urban planner (just like you) who thought becoming an attorney was a good life choice.

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    Im with Guap
    my first dog "oreo" was a pound puppy, he has a few issues but hes GREAT a cocker i think springer mix-smart, small, shedding is not too bad etc. and just as Guap says he WORSHIPS me, i saved his little doggie life and he knows it. to think there were an easy 70 dogs there that day-by the odds he is the ONLY one that lived. it breaks my heart-all the dogs were great *lots of Dalmations, it was a few months after 101 came out and folks realized the chrismas puppy was a BAD idea*

    dogs are NOT disposable-be ready to offer up 12-15 years (if your lucky) of your life to care for this love with legs.

    its like having a baby in the house for the rest of its life.

    My beagle (id not recomend you get a beagle) was from an old farmer-dumb ass dog

    i got a rott from rottie rescue-the best damn dog i have ever had but i could not bring her with me when i moved to NoVa.

    bottom line check the pound and rescue groups and dont "impluse" pick spend time with the animal. each one is diffrent than the others.

    good luck and we want pictures

    here are my boys-note the blank look on the beagle-thats NORMAL for him. totaly empty up there.
    "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin

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    Just curious, PlannerGirl

    PlannerGirl: Why NOT a beagle?

    (My mom needs/is thinking about getting a dog, now that she is widowed. A beagle would be a great size and temperment for her, imo)

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    I go for the pound as well. Pure breds are often so in-bred that you end up with the worst traits. I had 2 cockers that were adorable, but they could not wag their tails without leaving a puddle.

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    BKM, get a beagle wet...and hold your nose.

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    we tired this site and found it very helpful in choosing a dog- we got matched up with our weimie perfectly!
    When Jesus said "love your enemies", he probably didn't mean kill them.

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    the hardest dog to house break-average 2 years
    they are just down right nasty-they RATHER sleep in their own waste than not-ie crates dont work well *sigh*

    high strung for the first 3 years of their lives *read needs lots of room to run and lots of walks.

    prone to "roaming" ie gets out and stays gone for long periods

    prone to costly ear infections

    prone to be barkers from hell (read VERY long and LOUD)

    rather piss in house than outside

    now of course your milage my vary but i was warned about beagles, from folks that had them-but i got one anyway-too damn cute. ill never have another when mine goes to rainbow bridge. i love the little shit to death but no more

    their hair has little barbs on it that when they shead, and mine does a lot, the hair is pretty well attached to whatever it gets on.

    Yup they are sweet
    yup they are snuggly
    yup they are cute as buttons

    but the hassle is too much for the benifits i think-for me
    "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin

    Remember this motto to live by: "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, martini in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO- HOO what a ride!'"

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    We have a Rhodesian Ridgeback we got from the SPCA, he meets all your requirements you have listed. You want him?

    Just kidding

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    Christine - I would also highly recommend the pound dog route. Both of our dogs came from the shelter, one from Greenville, One from Atlanta (the Sam's Club of SPCA's). Mutts are so much more healthy and even tempered IMO. Word of caution - if you do get a mutt puppy, be aware that the "full grown weight" estimates could be really off. Our first dog - a retreiver/chow mix was estimated to top off at 50 lbs and she's 85.

    As for beagles - they are smelly, dumb as rocks and bark at everything.

    These links might help, the first two are breed selectors, the last searches available pets across the country:
    http://www.ivillage.com/pets/tools/b...tions/dog/size
    http://www.urbanhound.com/houndFinder/breedFinder.html
    http://www.petfinder.org/

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    On a sad note:

    When you get it, DON'T name it; Boshintang or Gaegogi.
    el Guapo is a former 20 year +/- urban planner (just like you) who thought becoming an attorney was a good life choice.

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    Re: On a sad note:

    Originally posted by El Guapo
    When you get it, DON'T name it; Boshintang or Gaegogi.
    That was SICK...
    When Jesus said "love your enemies", he probably didn't mean kill them.

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    ?

    My pointing out the practice or the practice itself?
    el Guapo is a former 20 year +/- urban planner (just like you) who thought becoming an attorney was a good life choice.

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    Chesapeake Bay Retreivers are awesome dogs. Friends of life, and very protective of you and your home. Good with kids too.

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    Once again, I seem to be the contrarian on the beagle issue. They're the only dogs we had growing up, and ours were great - even tempered, smart as whips, cleac, easy to train (both housetrain and signal and voice commands), quiet, and very affectionate. They did like to cast, but all hunting dogs do, and as long as we kept them active by walking and playing with them (with four boys in the house, not hard) that seemed to quell their urges to pick up a scent and follow it for weeks.

    However, I DO concur on the pound pup suggestions. My last dog, which I think was probably a, er, "beaglador" is the smartest dog I have ever know, easy to train, great around kids, and APPRECIATIVE.
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    Re: On a lighter note...help me pick a puppy

    I think thats about it. Any suggestions?
    Some people will say "go get a pound dog." While that option is admirable, it's tough finding a dog that might meet all of your requirements. A dog must be the right fit for your lifestyle and desires; you don't want to see it go back to doggie jail, after all. That's not to say you shouldn't look in shelters, but it might take a while if you're on a breed-specific waiting list.

    My pups, Bailey and Guinness, are Portuguese Water Dogs. The breed definitely meets your qualifications ... low to non-shedding, very intelligent, loves children, easy to train, energetic but not hyper. The problem ... they're very rare, and very expensive. There's about 8,000 Porties in the US, and a pup will set you back about $1,500. I got Bailey during a time when my paychecks were much higher, and I could afford a rare breed 'yuppie puppy." Guinness is a rescue; I had connections in the Portie community (!), and I was damn lucky to come across him.

    Guinness and Bailey. Guinness weighs about 50 pounds; Bailey about 45.



    More typical Porties; most are black or black with white markings.



    If I didn't get a Portie, I'd get a Soft-Coated Wheaten Terrier. Like PWDs, they're medium-sized, intelligent, affectionate, and they don't shed much. They're active, but probably the most sedentary and least aggressive and terrier-like of the terriers. They're still rare, but much more common than Porties; a good Wheaten pup will set you back about $800 to $1200.

    SCWTs are about the same size at PWDs; they range between 40 and 60 pounds.



    Because PWDs are SCWTs are non-shedding, they need frequent brushing and professional grooming. A good PWD haircut costs about $60, and it's needed every other month. White PWDs are more prone to matting than black PWDs. SCWTs are less prone to matting than PWDs.

    If you can put up with a little bit of shedding, my #3 dog would be the Springer Spaniel. Again, the same traits at the PWD and Wheaten ... smart, medium-sized, loves kids, active but not hyper. They're relatively common; you shouldn't have a problem finding one. The Brittany Spaniel also seems like a good choice.

    I wouldn't get a trendy hippie herding dog -- Australian Shepherd, Australian Cattle Dog, etc -- they're so intelligent, so focused and so active, they'll go nuts unless you have a task for them to do several hours a day. Great competition dogs, bit so-so as pets. Ever see 'em at a dog park ... they don't care about the other dogs, instead content to catch sone Phishhead's frisbee over and over and over and over and over again. I say this because, at dog parks, the Phishheads tend to get very upset when the other, more playful dogs cross the space where they're "training" their Australian something-or-another. Sheesh ...

    Count me in the anti-Beagle camp. Really ... anti-hound. Yes, Beagles are sweet, but mentally they're a couple of beers short of a six-pack. Hard to train, prone to wander, and prone to excessive vocalization. Other hounds will have similar shortcomings; sighthounds less so, but look out at an unfenced dogpark!
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    When you get it, DON'T name it; Boshintang or Gaegogi.
    That was sick - I could have lost my lunch over that. The practice, I mean. But, I probably could have done without the skeleton pics right after lunch. The website mentions that some view it the same as killing cattle for food, but for crying loud, dogs are domesticated animals, not livestock.

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    Ok, I read the headline way to quick. I thought it said:

    On a lighter note...help me kick a puppy.

    I think that may point to a disturbing dark side of my subconscious
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    pure love-

    and a WHOLE lot of energy!!
    When Jesus said "love your enemies", he probably didn't mean kill them.

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    Re: pure love-

    Originally posted by TexasPlanner
    and a WHOLE lot of energy!!
    I'll bet the poor boy is still seeing spots from that flash!

    LOL

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    I think you may be right, as he ate his way to the top of the bed through the new down comforter, to find the pillows.
    When Jesus said "love your enemies", he probably didn't mean kill them.

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    Might be TMI

    lol my beagle, Trooper, eats the rocks from the yard and the mortar from around the bricks of the house.

    oh yha and hes a carpet muncher-stop laughing Mike

    he picks at the seams of the carpet and EATS it-leading to a big hair ball in the tummy and 2am throw up parties *that sound is GROSS*

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    "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin

    Remember this motto to live by: "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, martini in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO- HOO what a ride!'"

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    Re: Might be TMI

    Originally posted by PlannerGirl
    he picks at the seams of the carpet and EATS it-leading to a big hair ball in the tummy and 2am throw up parties *that sound is GROSS*
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    Throw up parties? Is that another one of your fetishes?

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