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    The Honest Thread: Christmas Edition

    When I go to Christmas themed destinations, I find the décor off-putting. For example, in a little town near me, there is a Santa workshop that is themed for children and it is filled to the brim with toy trains, nutcracker dolls, stuff like that. It’s “old timey.” And it’s anachronistic – I cringe looking at that stuff. It makes no sense. Kids these days don’t want that, they want an Anki Overdrive, an Air Hog drone, an Xbox, a Hatchimal, and Nerf sub-machine guns. How are the nutcrackers and trains getting children excited for Christmas? If anything, these old timey settings are probably telling them that Santa is outdated, out of touch, and not grounded in reality. We lie to the kids already about the fat guy from the North, so maybe the Chambers of Commerce of America could do their part and make Santa interesting again!

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    I never told my kids the Santa lie. They know which fat guy brings presents, but I have to agree with putting some more modern toys at the Santa photo stand. Imagine a giant Olaf hanging out with Barbie. You could dress them up in Christmas clothes. My kids would be more impressed by that than any nutcrackers or toy soldiers.

    And wasn't there a time you didn't have to buy a picture to sit in Santa's lap? I'm sure they would let you if you asked, but you shouldn't have to ask. He's Santa damn it.
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    I don't like elaborate flashy christmas lights covering houses or strings of lights that are multiple colors. I like simple and elegant looking christmas displays.

    We don't take our kids to visit santa at the mall. I am not paying that price. Instead they write letters to Santa or tell our Elf on the Shelf what they want.
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    You pay to see Santa?!

    That is insanity

    This is a bad thread for me because I am not into Christmas at all this year and would cancel it if I could

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    Minimal interior decorations (compared to previous years in this house) and no tree due to the new cats, how are still a bit too exploratory. And, I like it. Also, roughly 75% of the outside decorations in this and the surrounding neighborhoods fall somewhere within the tacky spectrum.

    Quote Originally posted by luckless pedestrian View post
    This is a bad thread for me because I am not into Christmas at all this year and would cancel it if I could
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    I'm also kinda bah humbug about the Holiday this year. This years feels more like going through the motions than actually feeling the spirit.
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    My dad died at home December 25, 1996. No explanation of how I feel about Christmas necessary.

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    Quote Originally posted by luckless pedestrian View post
    This is a bad thread for me because I am not into Christmas at all this year and would cancel it if I could
    Well then....

    If you want different results in your life, you need to do different things than you have done in the past. Change is that simple.

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    Quote Originally posted by Wannaplan? View post
    Kids these days don’t want that, they want an Anki Overdrive, an Air Hog drone, an Xbox, a Hatchimal LEGO, and Nerf sub-machine guns.
    I'm no kid, but with the exception of that Hatchimal, I want all that stuff.

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    Quote Originally posted by TOFB View post
    My dad died at home December 25, 1996. No explanation of how I feel about Christmas necessary.
    I'm sorry to hear that. My 24 year old cousin died on Christmas three years ago from an aneurysm. Completely unexpected. I wasn't particularly close to him, but it still makes the holidays bittersweet.

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    Quote Originally posted by gtpeach View post
    I'm sorry to hear that. My 24 year old cousin died on Christmas three years ago from an aneurysm. Completely unexpected. I wasn't particularly close to him, but it still makes the holidays bittersweet.
    Horrible, sorry. My dad came home from Hospice so it was not totally unexpected. It is what it is. The 20 year anniversary will be hard on mom for sure, who doesn't have much time left at this point.

    Christmas also reminds me of how infrequently we see our two kids, who are now adults and living quasi-successful lives in different parts of the County. We will be all together this year, but we can usually count those days of the year easily one hand.

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    I found out my parents were divorcing one Christmas. This is in the way to my grandma's house to celebrate the holiday.
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    Quote Originally posted by Wannaplan? View post
    When I go to Christmas themed destinations, I find the décor off-putting. For example, in a little town near me, there is a Santa workshop that is themed for children and it is filled to the brim with toy trains, nutcracker dolls, stuff like that. It’s “old timey.” And it’s anachronistic – I cringe looking at that stuff. It makes no sense. Kids these days don’t want that, they want an Anki Overdrive, an Air Hog drone, an Xbox, a Hatchimal, and Nerf sub-machine guns. How are the nutcrackers and trains getting children excited for Christmas? If anything, these old timey settings are probably telling them that Santa is outdated, out of touch, and not grounded in reality. We lie to the kids already about the fat guy from the North, so maybe the Chambers of Commerce of America could do their part and make Santa interesting again!
    When I was a kid (in the 80's) I remember asking my dad how Santa and his elves made all of our presents, because on TV/movies Santa only gave out old-fashioned toys like wooden trains, old-fashioned baby dolls, etc. I think he said something like Santa had elves that worked with the big toy companies. (He was unprepared for my question, obviously).


    The Christmas-y things I really dislike are the inflatables. Nothing says crass, cheap commercialism better.

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    I'm so not into seen-from-space light displays with synchonized music. Too loud, too bright, and way too non-traditional for me.

    This year I'm not feeling it. I put the holiday tablecloth on the dining room table, put a little tree on it, and called it good. Nothing else has been done, and I don't know if I'll get to it before the big day. I do have a couple of days off this week, so maybe a few little things will get put out. But that's a maybe.

    I don't care if you say Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, or any of the variations that have sprung up over the years. Heck, I'm happy with Please and Thank You, You're Welcome and Have a Nice Day. Basic politeness and respect to others is all I ask - and I know in this day and age that's asking a lot.
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    Quote Originally posted by terraplnr View post
    The Christmas-y things I really dislike are the inflatables. Nothing says crass, cheap commercialism better.
    YES! I can't stand inflatables either. If I didn't abhor vandalism so much I'd get a BB gun and do some damage. But alas, I haven't sunk that low yet.
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    Quote Originally posted by Whose Yur Planner View post
    I found out my parents were divorcing one Christmas. This is in the way to my grandma's house to celebrate the holiday.
    Ouch! That had to hurt. I cannot imagine. Thanks mom and dad, Merry Effing X-Mas to you to.

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    Quote Originally posted by MD Planner View post
    YES! I can't stand inflatables either. If I didn't abhor vandalism so much I'd get a BB gun and do some damage. But alas, I haven't sunk that low yet.
    If you change your mind, give me a call as I would like to bear witness to that scene

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    I was in a Renaud-Bray store shopping for my secretion santa and they were playing Quebecois Christmas music. "Santa claus is coming to town" becomes "Père Noel arrivera ce soir!". I despise christmas music normally and taking American christmas songs and putting them in Quebec French just makes it even more jarring.

    This 1960's version by Michèle Richard is not as jarring, but you get the point.



    CHRISTMAS MUSIC SUCKS.

    Things I also hate are Christmas Trees themselves. I think it is very wasteful and the land used for farming Christmas trees can be put to better use. My parents Cat eats the pines and sap off of real trees so I am a fake tree man all the way.

    I also don't like the Salvation Army - they are a fundamentalist christian anti-Gay organization and the Santa's ringing the bells are underpaid.

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    Quote Originally posted by MD Planner View post
    YES! I can't stand inflatables either. If I didn't abhor vandalism so much I'd get a BB gun and do some damage. But alas, I haven't sunk that low yet.
    Quote Originally posted by luckless pedestrian View post
    If you change your mind, give me a call as I would like to bear witness to that scene
    Hahaha that would be so anti-Christmas, but so fun!

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    I also don't like the Salvation Army - they are a fundamentalist christian anti-Gay organization and the Santa's ringing the bells are underpaid.
    I rang the bell for them twice this season as a volunteer. Not everyone who rings a bell for them gets paid. I also sat at the Angel Tree table and helped people to pick out cards for underprivileged kids so people could buy necessities and toys for them. I don't agree with Franklin Graham on some issues, but his Operation Christmas Child is a great world wide charity.
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    I like Christmas time.
    People will miss that it once meant something to be Southern or Midwestern. It doesn't mean much now, except for the climate. The question, “Where are you from?” doesn't lead to anything odd or interesting. They live somewhere near a Gap store, and what else do you need to know? - Garrison Keillor

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    Quote Originally posted by Maister View post
    I like Christmas time.
    Boo...get out of this thread you...happy person.

    (sorry not happy persons)

    I'm sorry. Is my bias showing?

    Every day is today. Yesterday is a myth and tomorrow an illusion.

    You know...for kids.

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    But I am sure I have always thought of Christmas time, when it has come round as a good time: a kind, forgiving, charitable, pleasant time: the only time I know of, in the long calendar of the year, when men and women seem by one consent to open their shut-up hearts freely, and to think of people below them as if they really were fellow-passengers to the grave, and not another race of creatures bound on other journeys. And therefore, uncle, though it has never put a scrap of gold or silver in my pocket, I believe that it has done me good, and will do me good.[/Nephew Fred]
    People will miss that it once meant something to be Southern or Midwestern. It doesn't mean much now, except for the climate. The question, “Where are you from?” doesn't lead to anything odd or interesting. They live somewhere near a Gap store, and what else do you need to know? - Garrison Keillor

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    It's okay to actually like Christmas. There are just aspects of Christmas some of us don't like and we'll be honest about it.

    I agree with others about the inflatables.
    Also decorations that have nothing to do with Christmas. Worst in my neighborhood is the inflatable Minion.
    I also don't like Elf on the Shelf. It's kind of creepy to me. Although I do like the office one that gave me $5.
    I'm okay with giant light displays as long as you don't live across the street from me. #Nimby
    I'm tired of people arguing about Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays (they still argue that here). Either way it's wishing you happiness, get over it.
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    Things I overheard at our December Board meeting:

    Board Member #1 to Board Member #2: Merry Christmas
    Board Member #2: None of that Happy Holidays stuff for me
    *They shake hands*

    I was so confused.

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