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    Yuk to Christmas:
    inflatables
    commercialism on steroids
    tacky crap
    store displays begin just after Labor Day
    put a santa hat on something and 'poof its Christmas'
    car decorations (with lights)
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    Quote Originally posted by The Terminator View post
    I also don't like the Salvation Army - they are a fundamentalist christian anti-Gay organization and the Santa's ringing the bells are underpaid.
    There was a time not so long ago that I needed help, and didn't qualify for any assistance. The Salvation army found me and gave me a little help. All they cared to know about me was that I needed help.

    I think that Elf on the Shelf is scary and manipulative.
    I don't like inflatables, but I kind of like the Grinch that looks like he's pulling lights off of houses.
    I don't like laser lights, but if you want to fill your yard with lights and decorations, I'm going to come by to look at them.

    Does anyone else still take a drive to see lights? I do.

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    Quote Originally posted by kms View post

    Does anyone else still take a drive to see lights? I do.

    We go to Tanglewood's Festival of Lights the first week of December. http://www.forsyth.cc/parks/tanglewood/fol/

    Our friend and her daughter go with us. We've been doing this since The Girl was 3 and their daughter was 5. The girls actually ask us around Thanksgiving when we are going.
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    I like the season.....

    I always use the last week of the year to enjoy being with family. The presents and other stuff is white noise now that I'm getting older. I celebrate good food, drink and board games this time of year. This year I will substitute presents for great food and top shelf drinks.
    “The way of acquiescence leads to moral and spiritual suicide. The way of violence leads to bitterness in the survivors and brutality in the destroyers. But, the way of non-violence leads to redemption and the creation of the beloved community.”
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    Quote Originally posted by Whose Yur Planner View post
    I rang the bell for them twice this season as a volunteer. Not everyone who rings a bell for them gets paid. ....
    When I started playing with SA bandies, they told me that adding live music to a kettle increases the donation level by a factor of spare change to paper. You don't even have to be playing, just stand there holding something like that silly digital "Taps" bugle, and people open their wallets.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    My family of seven changed to six when my youngest sib died on December 19. (He'd survived his first brain surgery as a neonate, but the one at age 2 put him into a coma, and his lifeless form graced our living room for two years.) That was the Friday before the school break.
    My parents pulled off funeral planning overnight, with a Protestant minister who hadn't been informed...a homily that made it sound like the little guy had been running around in the back yard the day before. Then we gamely tried to continue with the holiday stuff. Procrastinators; I recall my mother pulling out our stockings, and handing me the one with his name on it saying, "go put this in the trash."

    Nowadays there are grief counselors and healing opportunities; in the 1960s, not so much. Years later I finally figured out why our respective events and accomplishments went unheralded...and how the family dynamics got stuck...and why the odd feud between formerly-close relatives was never explained.

    Humbug.

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    Quote Originally posted by kms View post
    Does anyone else still take a drive to see lights? I do.
    I used to. They don't do as much here.
    When did I go from Luke Skywalker to Obi-Wan Kenobi?

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    What's wrong with Inflatables? My kids love mine..
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    Quote Originally posted by Veloise View post
    When I started playing with SA bandies, they told me that adding live music to a kettle increases the donation level by a factor of spare change to paper. You don't even have to be playing, just stand there holding something like that silly digital "Taps" bugle, and people open their wallets.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    My family of seven changed to six when my youngest sib died on December 19. (He'd survived his first brain surgery as a neonate, but the one at age 2 put him into a coma, and his lifeless form graced our living room for two years.) That was the Friday before the school break.
    My parents pulled off funeral planning overnight, with a Protestant minister who hadn't been informed...a homily that made it sound like the little guy had been running around in the back yard the day before. Then we gamely tried to continue with the holiday stuff. Procrastinators; I recall my mother pulling out our stockings, and handing me the one with his name on it saying, "go put this in the trash."

    Nowadays there are grief counselors and healing opportunities; in the 1960s, not so much. Years later I finally figured out why our respective events and accomplishments went unheralded...and how the family dynamics got stuck...and why the odd feud between formerly-close relatives was never explained.

    Humbug.
    That's heartbreaking, and I can see how it would affect your family dynamics.

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    Quote Originally posted by Raf View post
    What's wrong with Inflatables? My kids love mine..
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    I want you to leave your house immediately so I can live there - what an awesome house


    these sad stories of Christmas, wow

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    Quote Originally posted by kms View post
    I think that Elf on the Shelf is scary and manipulative.
    You are describing organized religion.

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    Quote Originally posted by luckless pedestrian View post

    these sad stories of Christmas, wow
    Yeah, about the buzzkill...the stretch of time between Thanksgiving and Epiphany is about 15% of the year, so the odds are good that everyone knows someone who's experienced a holiday tragedy.

    I have some later-life tales of an ER run for pops, who fell a couple steps off a ladder hanging stuff... and me standing at the kitchen sink opening band-aids for my mother, who was patching up my [other] brother's hand after he got his fingers in the way of the hand saw he was using to shorten the Xmas tree trunk.

    For a few years I'd spend the day at my sister's house, and after dinner she'd drive, with the little nieces in the back seat, and I would operate my video camera as we drove around making snarky MST3K-style narratives about Why Some People Should Not Obtain Holiday Lights and Decor. That, and my folk dancer friends' all-night party (starting with midnight mass at their downtown Detroit church) are my best, funniest memories.

    Looking forward to a quiet Sunday service, then Chinese and a movie. Planning to invite my new friends from the Pantsuit Nation group to come with.

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    Quote Originally posted by Veloise View post
    and my folk dancer friends' all-night party (starting with midnight mass at their downtown Detroit church) are my best, funniest memories.

    Looking forward to a quiet Sunday service, then Chinese and a movie. Planning to invite my new friends from the Pantsuit Nation group to come with.
    Lol

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    I don't like getting presents that are physical, tangible things.








    I rather have memories and experiences.
    If you want different results in your life, you need to do different things than you have done in the past. Change is that simple.

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    Quote Originally posted by michaelskis View post
    I don't like getting presents that are physical, tangible things.

    I rather have memories and experiences.
    I honestly thought that you were going to say you preferred gift cards, and that would've made me very sad. I love giving gifts to others, but I also would rather have memories and experiences with people I love. But, it is nice to get a few things I need at Christmastime that I haven't been willing or able to purchase for myself. I believe the gifts this year will include a new shower head and some fencing for my backyard.

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    I wish my wife wouldn't ask me what I want for Christmas. When I tell her she usually comes back with something like you don't need that. Two examples:

    Get me a cheap watch like a timex.
    You don't need a watch, you already have one.

    Get me a hammock (I've been asking for a hammock every year).
    You don't need one, the kids will place with it more than you and there is no where to hang it.

    She ends up getting me good stuff, but why ask if you're not going to put it on the list?
    I don't pretend to understand Brannigan's Law. I merely enforce it.

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    Family memories: made

    Got this message in the e-mails.

    My husband and I attended a church function at which you called the square dancing and we had a lot of fun. This Christmas, my daughter-in-law said she didn't want to open a gift but would rather have some family fun. I thought of our evening before and wondered if we could have you call some dances for about an hour on Tuesday, December 27.

    We talked. Critical mass would be at least eight people, and their four kids/spice/grands brought it up to 16 (plus a baby, and a future baby). They borrowed the front lobby of a nearby church. I got there early, was all set by the time the clients arrived, with all the younger folks pouring in about 15 minutes later.

    Introducing her daughter-in-law, she told me that they had provided a gift box...containing sixteen bandanas. "Guess what we're going to do!"

    Everyone had fun, even the very smallest. My client set her tablet down, so I picked it up and walked around shooting video. They lined themselves up for a group photo, we did a simple square, the chicken dance, the hokey pokey, and about five tips more all packed into the hour. 5 o'clock came, and they didn't want to leave!

    The kids, who live scattered across the country, will be heading home and talking up this activity, and their kiddos will be playing with the bandanas for-ever.

    So happy to have been a part of this -- it really made my holiday.

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    Quote Originally posted by Raf View post
    What's wrong with Inflatables? My kids love mine..
    Ok, yours are cute! I was mostly thinking of my neighbor's giant cheap snowman that kind of looks like a ghost and the motor is loud. But Snoopy is always welcome.


    Quote Originally posted by Veloise View post
    Got this message in the e-mails.

    My husband and I attended a church function at which you called the square dancing and we had a lot of fun. This Christmas, my daughter-in-law said she didn't want to open a gift but would rather have some family fun. I thought of our evening before and wondered if we could have you call some dances for about an hour on Tuesday, December 27.

    We talked. Critical mass would be at least eight people, and their four kids/spice/grands brought it up to 16 (plus a baby, and a future baby). They borrowed the front lobby of a nearby church. I got there early, was all set by the time the clients arrived, with all the younger folks pouring in about 15 minutes later.

    Introducing her daughter-in-law, she told me that they had provided a gift box...containing sixteen bandanas. "Guess what we're going to do!"

    Everyone had fun, even the very smallest. My client set her tablet down, so I picked it up and walked around shooting video. They lined themselves up for a group photo, we did a simple square, the chicken dance, the hokey pokey, and about five tips more all packed into the hour. 5 o'clock came, and they didn't want to leave!

    The kids, who live scattered across the country, will be heading home and talking up this activity, and their kiddos will be playing with the bandanas for-ever.

    So happy to have been a part of this -- it really made my holiday.
    That is so great and really sounds like a lot of fun!

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    Does Christmas music suck?

    Why yes, yes it does. To whit:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMhMekfIyos

    Comments there are gold!

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    Odd years for X-Mas always suck for me. The Ex get's the kids all the way from X-Mas Eve to early January (except for 36 hours around New Years), while I'll only get them from the 21st to the 24th. It seems like every year I get them the latter half, they have to go back to school on January 3, but when the ex gets them, it's more like the 7th. Plus, when we had that really bad cold snap in early January 2014, the kids vacation was defacto extended by a week because the blizzard hit right on the Monday they were to return. The ex wouldn't let me have even ONE snow day with the kids.

    What's worse, my daughter will be 18 in less than two months and the parenting schedule, which would have been more in my favor for next Christmas, will no longer be in effect.

    Yeah, this X-Mas is going to suck

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    Quote Originally posted by dvdneal View post
    I wish my wife wouldn't ask me what I want for Christmas. When I tell her she usually comes back with something like you don't need that. Two examples:

    Get me a cheap watch like a timex.
    You don't need a watch, you already have one.

    Get me a hammock (I've been asking for a hammock every year).
    You don't need one, the kids will place with it more than you and there is no where to hang it.

    She ends up getting me good stuff, but why ask if you're not going to put it on the list?
    Wife asked me what I wanted and was not pleased when I stayed consistent with the "I don't want stuff, I want to go places, see things, and make memories" response. So instead of getting me stuff, she is researching ideas for fun day trips with the kids, date ideas around here, and we are talking about renting a cabin in the woods for a few days with zero electricity in July where we will unplug from the world for a moment. We will focus on taking the kids fishing, swimming in a lake, going for hikes, reading stories next to oil lamps before bed, and letting the kids experience life before electricity.
    If you want different results in your life, you need to do different things than you have done in the past. Change is that simple.

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    I don't decorate my small apt. or my office.
    Never bought or been given any decorations.

    closest is a coffee mug.

    Fun memory
    Years ago my father & his best friend carried into the living room a AMF Sunfish sailboat - without the mast of course as Xmas gift.

    Sad Memory
    The Christmas after father passed away.

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    Itty Bitty is really into Christmas this year!! It is infectious! But I feel badly because I am so tied up with school. It is a real challenge balancing happy family fun time with finals, etc. But we are doing our best.

    She really enjoyed getting the Christmas tree. She enjoyed chasing my mom around with the saw, yelling, "SAW HAND is going to get you!!" (I have Hubby to thank for that.)

    She has a Frozen Advent Calendar this year and every morning she jumps out of bed and yells the # day and can't wait to race downstairs. It has been really cute!


    Possible puppy adoption tomorrow!! Squeeeee!!! Hubby wants to name it Baugi.
    In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends. -Martin Luther King Jr.

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    Quote Originally posted by JNA View post
    I don't decorate my small apt. or my office.
    Never bought or been given any decorations.

    The Christmas after father passed away.
    I've got decorations, but have not put them up yet. I might put them out this weekend.

    I've had some horrid Christmases, to the point I was joking about converting to Judaism to avoid the holiday all together.
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    Quote Originally posted by Bubba View post
    Minimal interior decorations (compared to previous years in this house) and no tree due to the new cats, who are still a bit too exploratory. And, I like it.
    New house (and the cats have calmed down a bit), so back to a fuller spectrum of interior decorations this year, including a tree...I still expect the tree to go crashing down at some point with our more headstrong cat caught up in it.

    Quote Originally posted by Bubba View post
    Also, roughly 75% of the outside decorations in this and the surrounding neighborhoods fall somewhere within the tacky spectrum.
    Haven't made a full tour of the area yet, but there is one house near an entrance to the 'hood that, well, has enough lights out that it looks like the Mother-Ship has landed. Thankfully that's on the other side of the neighborhood.
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    I have asked my parents (mostly Mom) for four years now if we can just stop buying presents for each other except for the kids and just have a party. My Dad liked that idea but as always, we got outvoted 1-2.

    *Rant ahead

    Cripes sake, my parents bought us a washer and dryer when we moved into our new townhouse this fall! We said then and there that was Christmas but no, we have to go through the motions and I have to buy stuff for my estranged brother and his piece-of-work wife and hang out with all of them and pretend that there isn't anything wrong. I swear to whatever you find holy, family is the reason that Xanax was invented. 1 Xanax + 2 beers = Happy Coragus.

    *Rant over
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