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Organizations APA National Conference 2020 - Houston! (cancelled)

Salmissra

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So, who all is coming to :texas:Houston:texas: for National this year? Even though it's only 4 hours away, budgets are tight and I am not requesting to go. Boss is going, and she will bring back some info and ideas.

I'm going to stick with State conferences. Granted, this year it's on the far West of the state, but still.

What say you?
 

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Not likely, since I would have to pay out of my own pocket, which I estimate to be at $2,500.
Registration $760
Airfare $500
Hotel - 5 nights $1000+
Food - $

I don't need the credits because I have the 16 carry over, & this year is the OKI fall conference.
 
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Sadly no. The current gig gives me $1,000 a year for professional education which includes my dues. So all I can afford is the state conference.
 

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I have only been to the airport in Houston. Curious if it looks as messed up on the ground as it does from the air.
 

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I have only been to the airport in Houston. Curious if it looks as messed up on the ground as it does from the air.
I've had plenty of layovers in Houston Bush. It's not one of my favorite airports. I like having a longer layover there because of the layout and the lousy signage/directions in the airport. It can also be difficult navigating it. The airport really seems to be a cobbled together with a mix of new/renovated parts and older parts. Personally, I like Huston Hobby better.
 
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I've actually never been to Texas and was considering going in the last gig, which was GREAT about conferences and training. Now, with the new gig, I'm not sure what my training budget is and I may look for something more focused than the APA.

I did have a good run at some great conferences and locations there for a while...
 

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I am going to be at a HUD training the week before in DC. If I were to go it'd be on my own dime. I think the county's planning department will be there. Looked at the Housing & Community Development track and it's quite good.
 

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In 1997, my 'burg won a John Gunther Blue Ribbon award from HUD for our neighborhood planning program. As the principal planner, I got to go to accept the award and make a presentation at the HUD conference.

It was in some horrid airport hotel. In late July. In Houston, TX.

Thank you, but no, I'm not ever going back willfully.
 
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In 1997, my 'burg won a John Gunther Blue Ribbon award from HUD for our neighborhood planning program. As the principal planner, I got to go to accept the award and make a presentation at the HUD conference.

It was in some horrid airport hotel. In late July. In Houston, TX.

Thank you, but no, I'm not ever going back willfully.
This one is at their training provider's office in DC near Dupont Circle so it shouldn't be too bad. Generally they are pretty sucky affairs though.
 

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Alright kids... you know you need to find me there! Get with me for the invites to the Texas reception and CPC reception, plus part of the Texas group may be hosting a rogue hospitality suite... which if past is indication it may be as the official host.
 

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I went the last two years but honestly, when I see Houston, I don't feel any excitement. Maybe I am completely wrong but that is just how I feel. Next few years, yes.
 

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Wish I could, I was planning on it over a year and a half ago but we'll have new twins by the end of April and I can't leave my wife that soon. TN/GA are having a joint state conference in Chattanooga in the fall, I'll be at that one.
 

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Wish I could, I was planning on it over a year and a half ago but we'll have new twins by the end of April and I can't leave my wife that soon. TN/GA are having a joint state conference in Chattanooga in the fall, I'll be at that one.
WAIT! WHAT?!!?!?

You disappear for awhile and then return with news like this on the conference thread. Dude - CONGRATS!!!
 

JNA

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What are your fears/thoughts about attending and the spread of the coronavirus ?
 

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Are you surprised that APA has not cancelled the conference yet ?

If not are you still willing to go ?
 

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Are you surprised that APA has not cancelled the conference yet ?

If not are you still willing to go ?
APA won't give up the money no matter what. I don't foresee them making a choice that is better for its members... they haven't done that in years.... :roflmao:
 

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Well to be fair, it's over 30 days out. If the steps taken now do what they're supposed to by then things should be more "settled".
 

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Other things in Houston I noticed are canceled but those are things for this week or next -

I hope they don't cancel - but, if they don't cancel while other things in Houston are canceled during the same time period, that's not going to read well.
 

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Yea they should cancel it and give everyone their money back. My guess though is that APA is just looking at the $$ and is not going to do that willingly.

I have had two other conferences that are after APA cancelled already.

This isn't a difficult decision if you are looking at the public health aspect of it...
 

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It’s a gathering over 50 people. Maybe there’s a belief that planners are extra prepared; that we’re all “clean”, and that Coronavirus isn’t that prevalent in Texas yet.

if they really insist on holding it, I’d say advise those from CV clusters (NYC, Boston, Seattle, etc) to stay home. Feel sick? Stay home. Over 55 or with health issues? Stay home. Feel sick while you’re in Houston? Rent a car and drive home. Social distancing in sessions - space chairs far apart, no SRO seating for sessions, no keynote speaker, no receptions.
 

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They should do a virtual conference.

There was a conference I think it was in Denmark that did that

the speakers did their presentation streaming from their house/office and you signed on as an attendee
 

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Looks like APA will meet this week to discuss the status of the NPC. Can't see them continuing after all the things now going on. We wait and see. But full disclosure, I was not going anyway.
 

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I'm so frustrated with them.
I feel like I'm ahead of the curve. I've been frustrated for years with them. I kind of gave up caring about that. It's better for my health. I'm just surprised they didn't organize a COVID 19 Planning Relief Charrette for China. Please see the APA website for registration information . . . .
 

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I feel like I'm ahead of the curve. I've been frustrated for years with them. I kind of gave up caring about that. It's better for my health. I'm just surprised they didn't organize a COVID 19 Planning Relief Charrette for China. Please see the APA website for registration information . . . .
I've been on various levels of simmer for about a decade. Decided that I would try to implement some change from the inside of APA. I'm actually a little bit hopeful, because I think this may force the issue. There are several chapter presidents now that are placing national in their crosshairs and coordinating with one another.
 

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I'm so frustrated with them.
Huh. Glad I wasn't even permitted to go due to distance.

More locally, I'm wondering how is will affect the OKI Regional Planning Conference that was planned for this October in Louisville, KY.
 

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Huh. Glad I wasn't even permitted to go due to distance.

More locally, I'm wondering how is will affect the OKI Regional Planning Conference that was planned for this October in Louisville, KY.
I volunteered to be a local rep for InAPA. Haven't heard anything as of today.
 

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Our agency canceled travel through the end of April, so my boss isn't going. We may both be at State in October. Depends on how our agency looks on the other side of this pandemic.
 

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It's canceled. Bolding mine.

Updated March 17, 2020

We are very disappointed to announce that the 2020 National Planning Conference, originally scheduled for April 25–28 in Houston, is canceled in line with recommendations by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to limit effects of the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic. Registered attendees have the option of receiving a full refund or maintaining a credit with APA that can be applied to other programs, services, or membership renewal through September 30, 2021. We'll follow up shortly with additional information on future online learning opportunities that will facilitate the same high level of professional development for planners and the planning community that you've come to expect from APA.

As you focus on meeting the needs of your communities, we will turn our attention to the substantial challenge of keeping APA and the planning community strong in a rapidly changing world. We'll have more to say about this in the coming days.

We know this is a trying time for everyone — not just professionally, but also personally. On behalf of the APA Board of Directors and staff, we thank all of you for your patience and support as we navigate the complexities of this unprecedented event. We are especially grateful to the NPC Planning Committee and our local partners in Houston; please know we share your disappointment and honor your contributions.

Sincerely,

Kurt Christiansen, FAICP, APA President
Joel Albizo, FASAE, APA CEO
 

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It is funny that it took that long. So many much larger conferences were already cancelled in May. I find it odd that the decision wasn't easy to make. Bringing any group of people together that work in communities right now would just open up their communities to more risk. Asking anyone to get in a plane is unconscionable. I understand that no one was required to go to APA, but since I have to have my credits, I was already booked and ready to go. APA did the right thing in the end, it is just sad that we had to follow and not lead this charge as advocates for community health and well being.
 

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From what I've seen of the inside, part of the delay was trying to position to make the best force majore case possible for all contracts involved, and also to see if they could have a full solution for a digital conference ready at the time of the cancellation. Basically, that they knew cancellation was an almost inevitable outcome given trends. Conference cancellation results in some pretty ugly math--I know this from when our state had to cancel a conference a few years ago. Some of it is the Texas government not being exceedingly helpful with their language--I think we were hoping for an official "shut 'er down" directive for all mass gatherings from the Governor. They finally recognized that they were going to have to pull the trigger even if they don't have all the bits ready. For example, they are discussing how best to approach the loss of a key CM resource and how that affects membership, etc. I felt A LOT better after my conversations with a few folks. Getting past the actual conference cancellation is going to allow them space for clearer decision-making on "all of the things" that come with it. I expect things to become infinitely clearer over the next couple of weeks. A lot of folks, including various state chapters, are stepping up with offers of assistance and ideas for how to make the best of everything for the membership and organization.
 
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