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GIS / spatial ArcGIS 9.0

michaelskis

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Well, we are getting Arc GIS 9.0 soon. I was wondering if anyone as used it, what should I expect, what problems will I look forward to dealing with, and what are your thoughts on the program. Also if you have any tips to make it work better, please let me know.

Thanks
 

Dragon

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My opinion, if you are using Arcview 8.3 now, there is not much of a difference at all. Though we have had it for about 2 weeks here, I haven’t had much time to use it do to other projects we have going on and my boss is leaving, which is keeping me busy. 9.0 comes with some countrywide information that I have found pretty interesting: demographics, major roadways, train stations, airports, and other such information us planner geeks like.

Some notable differences:
1. GPS feature allows you to link a GPS system to upload coordinates.
2. New selection tab allows for quicker access to changing selectable layers
3. You have to delete 8.3, or I just couldn’t figure a way around it.
4. Labeling options are more simplified.
5. If you select a feature during a query, and then turn the query off, the selection goes away. (it stayed selected in 8.3, so this is one of my pet peeves because I liked that feature)
6. Quick font interface at the bottom for labeling purposes.

I’ll think of some other stuff eventually that I’ll post later.
 

DecaturHawk

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I'm still messing with it, but so far I like it. The annotation enhancements are the most useful new features, IMHO. One caveat: any geodatabases you create in 9.0 are not backward compatible with 8.3. I believe you are able to use 8.3 geodatabases in 9.0 without being required to upgrade them. However, once you do, you cannot go back. So, back up everything, and make sure that every ArcView seat is using the latest version so that there are no compatibility problems.
 

Suburb Repairman

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I've got it, but have been waiting to upgrade until some of my neighboring cities get Arc 9. We swap a lot of information back & forth with other govts, so I don't want to deal with compatibility issues. Does anyone know if Arc 9 is set up so you can save data in Arc 8.3?

The one thing I've heard is coming back is a built in flowchart wizzard for those of us that perform operations and then forget what we did. Flowcharts are also handy for presentations.
 

michaelskis

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Suburb Repairman said:
I've got it, but have been waiting to upgrade until some of my neighboring cities get Arc 9. We swap a lot of information back & forth with other govts, so I don't want to deal with compatibility issues. Does anyone know if Arc 9 is set up so you can save data in Arc 8.3?

The one thing I've heard is coming back is a built in flowchart wizzard for those of us that perform operations and then forget what we did. Flowcharts are also handy for presentations.
Another person that I know that uses it said that he is having problems with trying to get it to be reverse compatible, and once it upgrades it will not go back.
 

michaelskis

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OK... So drove the 2 1/2 hours to Novi today (in a city car :-() to a ESRI Arc GIS 9.0 seminar. It was very informative, and I learned some great things. First of which is to get the program to work how it should, you will need to buy all the extentions, second is that a centralized single fully useable Geo-database is not practical. Third was I now understand why it was free.

I did get several useful tips, and seeing some of the new functions that it can do with the modeling, it will save me a lot of time, but the 9.0 Desk top is just scraching the surface. The real power is in all of the extentions that you have to dish out the extra cash for.

Oh and because the scrip is different from 8.3 to 9.0, they are not reverse compatible. Also the flow chart wizard thing rocks!
 

Chet

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michaelskis said:
OK... So drove the 2 1/2 hours to Novi today (in a city car :-() to a ESRI Arc GIS 9.0 seminar. It was very informative, and I learned some great things. First of which is to get the program to work how it should, you will need to buy all the extentions, second is that a centralized single fully useable Geo-database is not practical. Third was I now understand why it was free.

I did get several useful tips, and seeing some of the new functions that it can do with the modeling, it will save me a lot of time, but the 9.0 Desk top is just scraching the surface. The real power is in all of the extentions that you have to dish out the extra cash for.

Oh and because the scrip is different from 8.3 to 9.0, they are not reverse compatible. Also the flow chart wizard thing rocks!

Gotta love planned obsolescence! Once ESRI has you, they have you forever! The are THE FIRM - lawyers were just a colloquailism that Grisham could make the common man understand for books and movies!
 

teshadoh

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One other problem I came across was some VBA scripts do not work for ArcGIS 9. After time we realized that the ArcObject libraries have changed! So far, I've come across little reason to have called it "9.0" when 8.4 would have sufficed. But perhaps after using ArcInfo 7.x & ArcView 3.x & then jumping to 8.x maybe I was expecting too much.
 

Sarahb8208

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The only issue I've had so far is that some of the tools I use have been moved around.
All of the applications I had written in 8.3 had no problem working when I upgraded to 9.0.


I do a lot of ArcIMS work and I couldn't tell any difference after I upgraded to 9.0 from 4.0.1
 

zman

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Attribute Table corrections

If anyone still reads this thread, I have this to offer.
ArcGIS9 was briefly introduced to me this morning and after working on 8.3 and other older versions, this seems similar to 8.3. However, working on planning development maps with v9, makes it easy to add data and manipulate data tables.
 

michaelskis

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zmanPLAN said:
If anyone still reads this thread...
I still read this thread, (because we are going to be upgrading our systems after the 4th...

Thank you for your input! Maybe we should see if we could get someone from ESRI on here to share in the toppic, answer questions, and provide us with some insider information on how to work the program like they want us to.
 

ajnar

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arcgis projects

hi, im a colege student and our school just purchased arcgis 9.0
i was wondering if there were any quick start tutorials to analyse networks using arcgis 9.0
 

The One

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Buffer Button....

When our IT people installed Arc 9, the buffer button went away....there was panic in the office.....cats and dogs living together.....oh those were scary times :-c .....then we found it again and all was well...... ;-)
 

teshadoh

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ajnar said:
hi, im a colege student and our school just purchased arcgis 9.0
i was wondering if there were any quick start tutorials to analyse networks using arcgis 9.0
I thought there was a primer included in the box - anyways, you will need a geodatabase (personal will suffice) & you will likely have a lot of work to confirm that everything is snapped. You will then create a geometric network (right click in the dataset) in arccatalog & then in arcmap edit the data with the geometric network toolbar.

Or something like that....
 

BikePlanIt

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michaelskis said:
Will it work well with .dgn's from Micro Station?
Yes, ArcGIS reads them in fine. 9.0 has several methods to import them (read directly, import to geodatabase, import annotations to gdbase, export from CAD, etc.), which are a little confusing. If you're just using them for making a map, don't bother converting them. If you need to do analysis or create new datasets with them, import all the 'feature classes' to geodatabase.
 
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