Having recently dealt with, been run over by wal-mart I have been following the Guelph case as closely as I can.Tranplanner said:Last I heard they are still fighting it out with Walmart. I think the case is before Ontario Municipal Board.
I must admit, I'm not familliar with that road. If it's accessing a public parking garage, we probably have a right-of-way or something over it to ensure public access.donk said:
Tranplanner, how does the City deal with the private road into teh old greenwood property that is south of Queen , by the parking garage?
In Europe, suburban retail development is called "out of town development." In England and France, US-style suburban development is becoming more commonplace. Remember ... the hypermarket was a French invention. I've seen images of French retail sprawl, and it makes most American strips look downright quaint in comparison.green22 said:Also I've heard alot about banning shopping centers in England, France etc. but any north american cities? Not including towns that ban all retail activity.
I wouldnt consider that a "gated community". I would consider it a "compound".El Guapo said:Just for grins; what if the Reformed Holy _________ Church wanted to construct a gated community? They tell your staff and zoning board that restricting daily contact with non-believers is part of their official doctrine. All members of the church want to reside there. They believe that a gated community would allow them to practice their religion to its fullest. They will construct and maintain all infrastructure at their expense. Allowing for all necessary inspections. Could you then still prohibit it if it met all other parts of your development requirements? Do we have the right as planners to tell them no?
Ditto global warming, right...gkmo62u said:There is no sound non-agenda driven evidence to support claims that...
Nothings wrong! We should encourage it, celebrate it, and send them on their way riding their bikes or walking. What's wrong is when we link these activities to momma taxi exclusively.gkmo62u said:What is wrong with giving your kids the opportunity to go to Dance class or soccer practice or cub scouts?
Well, lets see Maggie was into track, swiming, and wrestling. Unfortunatley she passed away of bone cancer (osteosarcoma) almost two years ago. Bandit is more into hiking/walking so is less active but we watch his diet and he stays trim.gkmo62u said:What type of things do your kids participate in?
Or if it's human induced or nature induced.. I just can't believe that the IPCC disregards studies that link solar activity with earth's climate... it's simple logic! without the sun... earth would be a cold pebble in the universe...[/ot]El Feo said:
Same case in our town. We've had too many cases of homeowners associations complaining to the City Council that their private streets are falling apart and not getting garbage pickup and snow removal. The Council agrees to service their development because these places are wealthier and more influential than the rest of the town.Dignan said:The muncipality I work for has banned private streets, which effectively bans gated communities. Arguments regarding community cohesion and obesity nonwithstanding, there are other reasons for the ban.
We're in a situation now where a Homeowner's Association (for a development approved approximately 10 years ago, before the ban) has attempted to convert its streets from private to public to avoid repair costs. If the city doesn't step in, the HOA will obviously be left with the bill and a rash of owners trying to sell their way out of the mess.
Also, our Police and Fire dept's take the "slowing emergency vehicles excuse" very seriously.
We haven't banned private streets, but our new official plan is definitely geared to the provision of public streets, especially on larger development sites - mainly for the reasons stated above. Where a developer insists on private streets, we're ensuring that they are built to public street standards.Seabishop said:Same case in our town. We've had too many cases of homeowners associations complaining to the City Council that their private streets are falling apart and not getting garbage pickup and snow removal.
You are correct, sir! I seem to recall a website that provided an updated blow by blow update of the ongoing battle.Tranplanner said:Not sure about gated communities, but I know that Guelph, Ontario "banned" big box/power centre developments (though the "rebuilt" Canadian Tire slipped through). Last I heard they are still fighting it out with Walmart. I think the case is before Ontario Municipal Board.
Isn't the provision of public services on private property illegal in Rhode Island? If so, have these property owners committed financially to defend the City from the impending lawsuits?Seabishop said:Same case in our town. We've had too many cases of homeowners associations complaining to the City Council that their private streets are falling apart and not getting garbage pickup and snow removal. The Council agrees to service their development because these places are wealthier and more influential than the rest of the town.
This was a while ago and I'm not sure if any special arrangements were made but its one reason why we don't allow them anymore.SGB said:Isn't the provision of public services on private property illegal in Rhode Island? If so, have these property owners committed financially to defend the City from the impending lawsuits?
This may be true in many cases but there are also many other reasons that Gated Communities exist, including special interests. like golf, boating, and certain sports or social activities.otterpop said:The intent of gated communites is for one group of people (in the USA, typically white and rich people) to keep out "those people." (typically black, or Hispanic people).
Which makes me wonder if the gates keep out the "bad" people or keep in the "bad" people. In 1970 my family moved into a subdivision north of New Orleans. At first the gate was only closed at late at night. Soon, we had our own sheriff's deputies monitoring the comings and goings of everyone, and making sure only "those people" who cleaned our houses, delivered our goods and tended our yards got in. I did not feel safer because of it. I felt confined and ashamed.
In Lewis and Clark County we recently had a case where a developer of an approved subdivision requested putting up locked gates at the entrances to the subdivision. The purpose was to cut down on through traffic on the subdivision roads between two collecor streets. The County turned down a request because we require all subdivision roads have legal and physical access, and legal access is partially defined as a public access easement. The Commission did compromise by allowing the developer to put up an unlocked gate on one side to cut down on through traffic.
Actually, the photos look exactly like the gated communities here in Florida. My brother-in-law lives in one in London, ON, and except for the two-story homes (rare in this neck of the woods) it could be in Florida. Most developers here prefer privately maintained roads so that the community can be gated, and we've adjusted to them. If the gate isn't manned 24 hours, we require siren-activated gates or a key pad with a code provided to EMS, sheriff, etc. We also require a turn-around area right before the gate (for those "where are we?" people). While I'd love to have a neighborhood where kids could walk and ride their bikes to school, there aren't any such neighborhoods in this area and demanding them from developers now would be politically suicidal. (sigh)jmf said:Here is a link to a research project being done at Dalhousie University (Halifax, NS, Canada) about Canadian gated communities. I saw a presentation by the prof and some of the students who are working on this at the CIP conference in Halifax, it was interesting. Here, 'gated' can be very different from what I imagine gated is in the US, as can be seen in some of the pics.