Tranplanner said:Last I heard they are still fighting it out with Walmart. I think the case is before Ontario Municipal Board.
Tranplanner, how does the City deal with the private road into teh old greenwood property that is south of Queen , by the parking garage?
green22 said:Also I've heard alot about banning shopping centers in England, France etc. but any north american cities? Not including towns that ban all retail activity.
El Guapo said:Just for grins; what if the Reformed Holy _________ Church wanted to construct a gated community? They tell your staff and zoning board that restricting daily contact with non-believers is part of their official doctrine. All members of the church want to reside there. They believe that a gated community would allow them to practice their religion to its fullest. They will construct and maintain all infrastructure at their expense. Allowing for all necessary inspections. Could you then still prohibit it if it met all other parts of your development requirements? Do we have the right as planners to tell them no?
Ditto global warming, right...gkmo62u said:There is no sound non-agenda driven evidence to support claims that...
Nothings wrong! We should encourage it, celebrate it, and send them on their way riding their bikes or walking. What's wrong is when we link these activities to momma taxi exclusively.gkmo62u said:What is wrong with giving your kids the opportunity to go to Dance class or soccer practice or cub scouts?
gkmo62u said:What type of things do your kids participate in?
Or if it's human induced or nature induced.. I just can't believe that the IPCC disregards studies that link solar activity with earth's climate... it's simple logic! without the sun... earth would be a cold pebble in the universe...[/ot]El Feo said:
Dignan said:The muncipality I work for has banned private streets, which effectively bans gated communities. Arguments regarding community cohesion and obesity nonwithstanding, there are other reasons for the ban.
We're in a situation now where a Homeowner's Association (for a development approved approximately 10 years ago, before the ban) has attempted to convert its streets from private to public to avoid repair costs. If the city doesn't step in, the HOA will obviously be left with the bill and a rash of owners trying to sell their way out of the mess.
Also, our Police and Fire dept's take the "slowing emergency vehicles excuse" very seriously.
Seabishop said:Same case in our town. We've had too many cases of homeowners associations complaining to the City Council that their private streets are falling apart and not getting garbage pickup and snow removal.
Tranplanner said:Not sure about gated communities, but I know that Guelph, Ontario "banned" big box/power centre developments (though the "rebuilt" Canadian Tire slipped through). Last I heard they are still fighting it out with Walmart. I think the case is before Ontario Municipal Board.
Seabishop said:Same case in our town. We've had too many cases of homeowners associations complaining to the City Council that their private streets are falling apart and not getting garbage pickup and snow removal. The Council agrees to service their development because these places are wealthier and more influential than the rest of the town.
SGB said:Isn't the provision of public services on private property illegal in Rhode Island? If so, have these property owners committed financially to defend the City from the impending lawsuits?
otterpop said:The intent of gated communites is for one group of people (in the USA, typically white and rich people) to keep out "those people." (typically black, or Hispanic people).
Which makes me wonder if the gates keep out the "bad" people or keep in the "bad" people. In 1970 my family moved into a subdivision north of New Orleans. At first the gate was only closed at late at night. Soon, we had our own sheriff's deputies monitoring the comings and goings of everyone, and making sure only "those people" who cleaned our houses, delivered our goods and tended our yards got in. I did not feel safer because of it. I felt confined and ashamed.
In Lewis and Clark County we recently had a case where a developer of an approved subdivision requested putting up locked gates at the entrances to the subdivision. The purpose was to cut down on through traffic on the subdivision roads between two collecor streets. The County turned down a request because we require all subdivision roads have legal and physical access, and legal access is partially defined as a public access easement. The Commission did compromise by allowing the developer to put up an unlocked gate on one side to cut down on through traffic.
jmf said:Here is a link to a research project being done at Dalhousie University (Halifax, NS, Canada) about Canadian gated communities. I saw a presentation by the prof and some of the students who are working on this at the CIP conference in Halifax, it was interesting. Here, 'gated' can be very different from what I imagine gated is in the US, as can be seen in some of the pics.