Anyone aware of a jurisdiction in the United States that is currently using congestion :-# pricing in any form? How about gas stations seeking to limit peak hour congestion due to extraordinarily low prices :-0 ?
The One said:Anyone aware of a jurisdiction in the United States that is currently using congestion :-# pricing in any form? How about gas stations seeking to limit peak hour congestion due to extraordinarily low prices :-0 ?
AubieTurtle said:I've always thought it was odd that EZPass requires such low speeds. I work for a tollway and our cruise cards read at much higher speeds. It isn't unusual for traffic to flow through the toll plaza at 70. I guess our card readers are set to be more sensitive than most.
There is talk in Georgia about HOT lanes and congestion pricing but I don't know how much good it will do without alternatives. At least it will raise money from those using the roads instead of coming out of the general fund.
Pennsylvania, the commonwealth in which i live, was the second state to join the union and in its City of Brotherly Love we don't seem to have any legal problems making residents buy parking permits if they want to park their cars on their own streets. The residents usually request it as a way to keep shoppers and commuters from tying up spaces all day long. Other drivers can still park there without a permit but only for two hours. The permits are only available for cars registered in that neighborhoodThe One said:2. Sticker zones (Like London and Mexico City) vehicles traveling through designated areas (registered inside = free sticker) are required to obtain and display a sticker at a yearly cost when registering a vehicle. May only apply to vehicles registered in the specific county (keep vacationers happy but not residents).
I know, I know, equal protection, interstate commerce acts and a host of other legal issues may effect this one.......just humor me on this......
I've seen weekday Metro trains and it is insane. At the same time I think that's a flaw in the system. Metro tries to be a subway and commuter rail at the same time and it just doesn't work. I'm sure Metro planners have all the great ideas already but i would think the commuter rail system needs to be improved/expanded to take the suburban pressure off of the Metro.PlannerGirl said:I know the Washington DC metro area is looking at doing this and I expect it to go over well but like NYC some of the metro lines are already overfull at peak times so I am not sure what they expect to do besides raise money.
There is also talk of making a lane of the beltway HOT not just the roads in and out of the City.
I don't think variable gas prices would change much in terms of congestion- it might make an interesting fix for air quality, though. People don't fill up everyday, esp. in urban areas where a tank of gas can last you a week or two. The suburbanites driving downtown also don't fill up in the urban areas b/c it's typically more expensive.The One said:Yes, or those pesky personal freedom types who oppose all kinds of taxes, even the defacto kind.... ;-) You seem to think it would be no problem to ask gas station owners in a congested area to flex their prices based on the time of day. Got any examples? I like the sticker idea a great deal and believe it would at least help take some pressure off a specified area, but could also increase vehicle miles traveled and pressure in other traffic areas...... :-# , but maybe that's a problem for regional planners..... :-D