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Health 🏥 Coronavirus and other pandemics

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I don't know how Michigan is a hotspot. From my observation fully 1/4 of that state's population is in South Carolina right now. Good lord, I drove to the island on Saturday and I swear I passed more cars from Michigan and Ohio than I did ones from here.
 

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I want to know how the people who haves died of Covid contracted it. I want specifics. I don't need names associated with it just: 5 people died from coronavirus today. 3 were community exposure, 2 were family exposures.
 

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I don't know how Michigan is a hotspot. From my observation fully 1/4 of that state's population is in South Carolina right now. Good lord, I drove to the island on Saturday and I swear I passed more cars from Michigan and Ohio than I did ones from here.

Maybe those who (hopefully) aren't infected decided it's time to get the hell out of Dodge!

I will say that I'm kicking myself for not packing up and taking the kids somewhere warm when they were off of school a couple weeks ago, but I'm still not really comfortable with traveling even though I'm fully vaccinated.
 

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I want to know how the people who haves died of Covid contracted it. I want specifics. I don't need names associated with it just: 5 people died from coronavirus today. 3 were community exposure, 2 were family exposures.
I do a lot of thinking about this.

My fair state's numbers are shooting up. Why? They were so low a year ago after we shut everything down.
Fewer people were exposed/sickened/died during that careful time. Now the GQP and the kidnappers, et al are clamoring for opening, so the gov has resorted to "discouraging" restaurant meals and social gatherings. (Seems like whatever she does, the loonies take over.) The people who were fragile but survived whole last year are now getting sick.
Also, the initial roll-out of vaccinations concentrated on the 65+ cohort, who are not the ones taking spring break trips or doing restaurant hangs. They included 60+ back in March, so many of those have passed the 2-week countdown. 16 - 59 has only been welcomed for about a week now, so they can still be super spreaders or carriers.
 

michaelskis

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I do a lot of thinking about this.

My fair state's numbers are shooting up. Why? They were so low a year ago after we shut everything down.
Fewer people were exposed/sickened/died during that careful time. Now the GQP and the kidnappers, et al are clamoring for opening, so the gov has resorted to "discouraging" restaurant meals and social gatherings. (Seems like whatever she does, the loonies take over.) The people who were fragile but survived whole last year are now getting sick.
Also, the initial roll-out of vaccinations concentrated on the 65+ cohort, who are not the ones taking spring break trips or doing restaurant hangs. They included 60+ back in March, so many of those have passed the 2-week countdown. 16 - 59 has only been welcomed for about a week now, so they can still be super spreaders or carriers.
What parts of the state are seeing the highest percentage of of new cases? I am curious because I thought Detroit was a hot spot last year during the lockdown and the UP had almost no cases. Based on the Data, there was a significant surge that started around mid October and ran through through the end of the year.

On the vaccine front, I got shot #2 last week. 6 hours afterwards I was not feeling great. It was mostly headache and overall soreness. 12 hours was more of the same, 24 hours I had a little bit of a temp and chills and felt really bad, but 48 hours after I was back to 90%.
 

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What parts of the state are seeing the highest percentage of of new cases? I am curious because I thought Detroit was a hot spot last year during the lockdown and the UP had almost no cases. Based on the Data, there was a significant surge that started around mid October and ran through through the end of the year.

The Thumb (St. Clair, Huron, Sanilac, Tuscola counties in particular) has been leading the nation in terms of positivity rates over the past few weeks. I know at one point, positivity rates in St. Clair County were close to 30%, it's come back down a bit since then but still in the 20s. Those counties are also leading the state in cases per 100,000. In terms of sheer numbers though, Wayne, Oakland, and Macomb counties are leading the way, but these counties have by far the largest share of people in the state.

Looking at the NY Times map, it looks like cases in the Texas Stovepipe counties really exploded since the last time I refreshed the map on Wednesday or Thursday (but if I remember the little bit of Texas geography that I know, that is a very sparsely populated region).
 

Veloise

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Looking at the NY Times map, it looks like cases in the Texas Stovepipe counties really exploded since the last time I refreshed the map on Wednesday or Thursday (but if I remember the little bit of Texas geography that I know, that is a very sparsely populated region).
What's disingenuous: areas with a smaller population will show up in a deeper shade because that's a higher proportion of their total. (I'm not suggesting that Thumb residents are innocent in terms of congregating, etc.)
Interestingly, the Rite Aid in Marlette has been a great place to get an appointment. Regular schedule, every three minutes. My Detroit-area group has send quite a few people there, so much that we have a post topic tag and it describes the ice cream place.
 

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What's disingenuous: areas with a smaller population will show up in a deeper shade because that's a higher proportion of their total. (I'm not suggesting that Thumb residents are innocent in terms of congregating, etc.)

I wouldn't say that's disingenuous. It's generally good mapping and a better way to use/represent the data to equalize the number of new cases by 100k or 1 million people. Otherwise maps of COVID-19 cases or number of school-age kids, or number of Russian speakers, or whatever you're looking at is always going to be higher in the major metros. Doing this would make it very difficult to be able to do a proper hot spot analysis to see which areas have higher case counts or positivity rates than they otherwise should when taking their population into account.
 

Veloise

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I wouldn't say that's disingenuous. It's generally good mapping and a better way to use/represent the data to equalize the number of new cases by 100k or 1 million people. Otherwise maps of COVID-19 cases or number of school-age kids, or number of Russian speakers, or whatever you're looking at is always going to be higher in the major metros. Doing this would make it very difficult to be able to do a proper hot spot analysis to see which areas have higher case counts or positivity rates than they otherwise should when taking their population into account.
Not really.
Here's a series of maps from the NYT that bring it into perspective.


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Not really.
Here's a series of maps from the NYT that bring it into perspective.


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I guess I still don't see what's disingenuous about any of the maps on the NY Times site. Each one makes clear what they are showing geographically, whether its per capita cases, average daily case counts, etc. Nothing is being hidden and everything is labeled clearly.
 

Veloise

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I guess I still don't see what's disingenuous about any of the maps on the NY Times site. Each one makes clear what they are showing geographically, whether its per capita cases, average daily case counts, etc. Nothing is being hidden and everything is labeled clearly.
If you go in with a forgone conclusion, you can write a scary headline and find some data to adjust that will then support your hypothesis.
 

Salmissra

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Anyone else have some really strange dreams after their vaccine shot(s)? I mean - totally out there, not normal type dreams?

Or is it just me?

These weren't scary nightmares, more surreal, but still extremely strange and unusual.
 

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Anyone else have some really strange dreams after their vaccine shot(s)? I mean - totally out there, not normal type dreams?

Or is it just me?

These weren't scary nightmares, more surreal, but still extremely strange and unusual.
Yes, as I posted earlier - a very vivid (lifelike) dream that Kim Jong Un asked me in very broken English if disco would ever come back ...
 

Bubba

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Anyone else have some really strange dreams after their vaccine shot(s)? I mean - totally out there, not normal type dreams?

Or is it just me?

These weren't scary nightmares, more surreal, but still extremely strange and unusual.
I don't remember my dreams when I wake up (beyond a vague knowledge that I dreamed something at some point while I was sleeping). I'm getting my second Pfizer shot in a couple of hours - perhaps I should be grateful of that...?
 

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Probably that disco never left in Gedunker's household!
So? What was your response?

Inquiring minds and all that you know.

Well, I remember that I understood this is a guy that uses anti-aircraft weapons to assassinate political opponents (including relatives) and other undesirables, so I wanted to be correct in his eyes, and something told me the correct answer was in the affirmative. I don't recall anything untoward happening to me afterwards, so I think I guessed correctly. I remember humming two disco songs the rest of the night - one I can't recall and the other, rather appropriately, Staying Alive by the Bee Gees.

Disco was, unfortunately, a big part of my formative years, and I had the great misfortune of growing up in metro NYC, so it was everywhere unavoidable. (I was then and am now much more attuned to the singer-songwriter ouvre.) I can say that there is no disco in my household, not least on my iPhone. I think the Staying Alive creeped into my mind because I was thinking about CPR earlier in the day, and we were trained to use that song for the rhythm for chest compressions. So there!
 

Planit

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I think the Staying Alive creeped into my mind because I was thinking about CPR earlier in the day, and we were trained to use that song for the rhythm for chest compressions. So there!

Well that was a better alternative than ...

 

HomerJ

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Got the J&J vaccine Saturday morning along with my wife. Felt fine until going to bed that evening and then felt like absolute garbage the next day until late afternoon/early evening. By Monday morning we were both fine and thrilled to only have to do 1 shot, and then we saw the news regarding the blood clot cases and CDC announcement...:grimace:
 

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I didn't get a choice on the version I got, but in hindsight, I'm glad I didn't get the J&J version - being in the same cohort as the 6 ladies that had clots.

My dad wants the J&J version, but with his heart issues I'm not sure that's the best bet.
 

michaelskis

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Got the J&J vaccine Saturday morning along with my wife. Felt fine until going to bed that evening and then felt like absolute garbage the next day until late afternoon/early evening. By Monday morning we were both fine and thrilled to only have to do 1 shot, and then we saw the news regarding the blood clot cases and CDC announcement...:grimace:

The news of this is not going to help the push to get people vaccinated. My sister has been pushing her husband to get the shot for quite a while now, but he was hesitant because he wasn't sure about the side effects and didn't think we knew enough about it. She made a point not to mention my wife's reaction, but apparently the news of this has caused him to dig his heals in further. We are going to see them this summer, and there is a good chance that my wife won't be back to 100% by then (she is about 5% now).

Speaking of, I am not opposed to the vaccine passports, but I wonder what will happen for those who were not able to get their second dose (such as my wife) due to complications? Does that mean she can't fly, attend concerts, or visit places?
 

MD Planner

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With or without the J&J vaccine, very soon supply will exceed demand. There are a lot of people who are "no way, no how" when it comes to being vaccinated.
 

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I get Pfizer #2 tomorrow, and our state is now officially open to anyone that wants it, so I told CCG he has to make an appointment today. My parents are both vaccinated, so I'm excited to be able to have anxiety-less visits with them again once CCG is also fully vaccinated. My mom especially has certainly missed spending time with PeachFuzz!

We're still trying to figure out what to do regarding family members that won't be getting the vaccine in terms of visits. I think since PeachFuzz still won't be vaccinated, we'll continue to take the same precautions. Unfortunately, some of the family members have not been good about sticking to our boundaries, so we've cut off visits with them completely. Maybe we'll go back to outdoors but require masks. I don't know. I hate this part of it.
 

Dan

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Anyone else have some really strange dreams after their vaccine shot(s)? I mean - totally out there, not normal type dreams?
I had a really lucid dream a couple of nights ago that an antagonistic bully from elementary school was still tormenting me.
 

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I saw a headline come across my phone and now I can't find it that J&J asked Pfizer and Moderna to help figure out the side effect thing and they declined - I hope that the headline is misleading because if that's accurate, what a dick move that is
 

Planit

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The county sent out a robocall letting people know the vaccine was available and open to all. I hope they get a good response.
 

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TOFB

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Drained, cleaned, and refilled both ponds, sucked up 2 bags of yard waste, and cut the grass. Do I really have COVID?
 

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Today is the first day I'm working at my desk at work since March 2020. They are "re-integrating" the workforce. For me, I was fulltime work from office, but now my boss said I can set my own work-from-home/work-from-office schedule, so I said I'd WFH Monday and Thursday, WFO Tuesday and Wednesday. So here we are on Tuesday, live from the office.

My desk is in the middle of a bunch of computer admins. I'm part of the business/engineering team for the same group so that's why the put me here (my boss is out of Orlando). The point being that for them, they've been tending the computers all along, so they haven't been working from home. So for them there's nothing special about today. It's just Tuesday.
 

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Will there be a return to "normal" at your place of work or will there be some sort of new-normal?

I go in to the office 2x a week and most seem to come in once or twice, but there are still a bunch of folks who only come in once a month... or less. As we get further and further along in this, it sounds like our administration is going to allow people to permanently keep working semi-remotely, if it's appropriate for their position. In our office, that means there are a lot of folks like our Business Development reps and many of our planners who will not be probably keep coming in once every ~4-6 weeks so does it really make sense to keep letting them take up so much floor space?There is scuttlebutt that management is looking at physically rearranging a lot of the space.

Right now, our department takes up an entire floor of the office building (if I had to guess, I'd say we probably have about 10,000 sqft but I honestly really have no idea) and it's divided up into offices and a fairly large cubes for about 50 of us. Besides a small copy room and a kitchen, there aren't many common areas and one common complaint from day 1 in this building has been that it's very impersonal and not very conducive to collaboration (the walls of the cubes are about 8' high, effectively making each cube an office without a door.

Maybe this staid county government office building will move in the 21st century of office design and remove and/or rearrange a lot of the now unused and underutilized cubicles and give us some more communal areas to work in. I don't think I'd want to sit in an open office all day on the days I come in, but I'd definitely be willing to go sit on a couch or some comfortable chair for an hour or so when I first come in in the morning while I drink my coffee and respond to emails or whatever.

I know it's probably just wishful thinking and their idea of rearranging likely just means getting rid of a few unused copiers and moving some filing cabinets around.
We have a small staff and a retail function, so "everybody back in-person" full time has been ordered and will happen in less than a month. "Doors open to the public" hasn't been scheduled yet. I'm a big supporter of some "from home" arrangements, but when it means the poor sot who actually comes in to work in their office gets stuck with counter duty, that's a no-go. Much to be figured out in the months to come. I think we are going to reset to something like pre-pandemic and then evaluate from there.
 

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We reopen to the public on May 3rd.

As a county planning in a home rule state, we had very little public interaction before the pandemic and the rest of the departments in the building only ever saw people by appointment. We began a reorganization as the pandemic was starting and we've closed our public counter completely and our office building now has deputies at the front door who stop anybody from coming in who don't have an appointment. I wouldn't be surprised if our building is never "open to the public" again, at least in the foreseeable future.

I think they're largely operating by appointment only, but I'd hate to be one of the people who have to work the counter at the clerk or treasurer's office right now.


Did y’all hear the Nuge got the virus?

I wonder how different the symptoms are to cat scratch fever...
 

Veloise

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Got a personal email from a state agency regarding emergency preparedness, asking me to notify folks of 7500 appointments available at the FEMA football palace in the "D".

I made this.

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Doohickie

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Tarrant County, Texas, has been fewer than 200 cases per day for a few days running now. Lowest it's been in a while.
 
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