Maister said:I was going to make some sort of generalization about the lower the population density the less friction there is between people and the more 'virtuous' a society tends to be. But then I remembered the Mongol Hordes under Ghengis Khan originated in the empty steppes of central Asia....
Duke Of Dystopia said:Dirt roads are over rated. As is the agrarian life.
I am mesmerized and sort of horrified when I hear the old farm stories he (my dad) tells about eating lard sandwiches while growing up cause they had so little. I can see americas shift from primarily agrarian life with huge families to todays demographic shift of urbanity for the majority.
I would agree that there is a lot worth keeping in our value system from the past, I am not convinced it is dirt roads and cow crap that give us those values worth keeping.
Gedunker said:I'd suggest that NHPlanner would have something to say about dirt roads in mud season in New Hampshire.
Actual quote from my 92 year old cantankerous great uncle Jack (who was a lifelong rural dweller) "Cars cost so damn much nowadays 'cuz they have all this safety crap like belts and such in 'em. Why, I remember my old model T, the seat was right on top of the gas tank. You had to lift up the seat to put gas in. And if the smell from the gasoline got too strong while you were driving along, why you just lit up a cigar to mask it."Dan said:Ahhhhh ... more glurge about old-fashioned values.... Cars that you could fix yourself, but which would die because of vapor lock or any other minor malady. Being able to light up a filterless Chesterfield anywhere and everywhere you wanted. Leaded gasoline. (
SGB said:Been there. Done that. No problem - just leave your snow tires on until the back roads firm up.
Besides, they actually pave the roads down where NHP lives.