Planderella said:Do we get to choose who goes first?
SkeLeton said:I can't believe that people still believe the fairy tale of global warming! Of course it could happen, but it isn't happening now, at least not in an un-natural way (the climate changes that are occurring are because of natural temperature fluctuations)
Hmm well, ok.. But anyways I belive we're closer to a Glaciation than to a warm period, I mean, in the Medieval Warm Era (around the 1300) there were VINEYARDS in London, and it's a proven fact that the MWE was warmer than now, so the Earth is chilling down, and the rise of the temperature now isn't very important, since in the late 1800 until around 1940 the temperature was going down, now it goes up, then down....It's much more logical than the linear temperature rise that I see in charts...You are close in that statement, but what is closer is to say that the natural flucuations are great enough that no one can say if the warming is natural or not. The system is just too complicated with too much variation in too many variables to make any conclusions. IMHO