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Hockey Punch

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What do you guys think about that hockey player sucker punching the Colorado Avalache player. I was watching the news this morning and there is a soon-to-be stewing debate on outside monitoring of the sport. The guy from ESPN said that that would ruin hockey because people would not be able to draw the line on what exactly is violent and what isn't. What do you guys think...especially the Canadians out there? Should the hockey league be allowed to monitor its own?
 

Seabishop

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I don't see why they don't file criminal charges. Its assault regardless of how much its accepted in hockey culture - especially that case where the two players weren't even caught up in the moment. That case seems like its way past the fine line between rough play and assault.
Boy, you Canadians sure are violent, no wonder you can't be trusted with guns and need so much health care. ;)
 

Tranplanner

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Yeah, it was a premediated vicious act that should be punished accordingly. Those acts have no place in hockey. Criminal charges should be considered, but I agree it is a bit of fine line in determining when charges are warranted. In this case, I would say they do.
 

Gedunker

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Bertuzzi -- the attacker -- should be suspended for the remainder of this season and all of next season, IMO. I'm not sure about criminal charges, although I would not be surprised to see them.

There was a story some years ago in Sports Illustrated about a player who died during a fight in an Italian League game. Apparently, the victim was poke checked in the chest a just the exact moment his heart was most vulnerable to a shock. He went into cardiac arrest and died. The Italian authorities brought the other player up on either manslaughter or murder charges (I don't remember the specifics). Everyone protested the charges, including the victim's family noting that there was no intent to cause harm and fighting is part and parcel of the sport. Unfortunately, I don't recall seeing how tha matter turned out. Does anyone know the story? (I'll google it to see what I can find and post again later if I do find anything...)
 

Big Easy King

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It was a horrible act. I was disturbed when I saw footage of the incident on the news. Sportsmanship has gone awry in many different professional sports. :-\
 

michaelskis

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It is always wrong when someone gets hurt from an intentional act. If you are going to fight on the ice… go face to face, drop the gloves, and get an announcer to call it like a boxing match, but when a pansy from Vancouver comes up from behind, and the guy has no idea what is about to happen till his face hits the ice, that is just wrong.
I think that the NHL players will kind of change. Even rival times have a respect for the safety of each other, and when a senseless act like this happens, it acts as a wakeup call for the rest of the players.
 

michaelskis

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Big Easy King said:
It was a horrible act. I was disturbed when I saw footage of the incident on the news. Sportsmanship has gone awry in many different professional sports. :-\

I can not agree more. There was a time when players where part of a team, and a community. Now they do it to try to look good… but in the end, they are only in it for the money. I still watch a lot of sports, but I think that there is no loyalty to teams anymore by players, or fans for that matter. With the exception of the Green Bay Packers, every team is owned by a single person. That is why I think that tickets at Lambeau Field are harder to get then nuclear weapons. Sports players and Actors in movies make WAY TO MUCH FREAKIN MONEY. They are looked at like Royalty or Gods. Thousands of people will wait in line just to see someone time Timerlake of a moment… and the whole women fainting thing is pathetic. I met my idol a few months back. Tommy Moe is one of the most down to earth people that I have ever met. (for those of you who do not know who he is, He own a few medals in the Olympics for skiing) Now he works with kids, is a coach, and is a real person.

I think that as a society we are warped by what is cool do, and Sports and Movie or TV Stars take advantage it. I think that many of them are nothing more than a bunch of pathetic excuses. There are a few out their who give a damn about the world, but tell me, when was the last time that a baseball player bought tickets for a school, or required lower ticket prices for seats in his contract?

OK… now that I got that off my chest, I feel better…
 

martini

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Bertuzzi from what I've seen is one of those players that is always roughing it up a bit. One of the enforcer's of the league. Hockey and fighting in my mind go hand in hand, its just part of the game. But Bertuzzi's act the other night was way out of line. Suspend him for the rest of the season, and maybe next too, along with a nice fat fine, but I don't think criminal charges are neccessary. If you're gonna fight, throw the gloves, face to face, like a man, man!
 

Rumpy Tunanator

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martini said:
If you're gonna fight, throw the gloves, face to face, like a man, man!
Exactly!

-I think the NHL should also get rid of the instigator penalty. There used to be a time when the players enforced the rules, and if one of their guys messed up your guy, you knew that guy was going to get it.

Sports players are way over-paid, and there is no loyalty from them or the owners.

There was a time when teams were loyal to there fans.
 
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