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NHL Season Thread 2019-20

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deep sigh

The Ralph Krueger magic has completely dissipated. The Sabres were lucky to get a point out of that. They really needed two.
 

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The Avalanche keep winning despite being heavily depleted by injuries. I even got up to Vancouver to see the Avs/Canucks game.

Looking forward to Avs/Bruins in Boston in two weeks.
 

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The Avalanche keep winning despite being heavily depleted by injuries. I even got up to Vancouver to see the Avs/Canucks game.

Looking forward to Avs/Bruins in Boston in two weeks.
See, that's funny because the Red Wings keep losing despite being healthy... :mad:
 

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We just can't seem to solve the Flyers this year. 5-3 loss at home last night (4-3 I suppose, the last one was an EN), ending our 4 game winning streak. Sebastian Aho seems to be rolling along well now.

And a fun fact, the suggest word for a misspelling of Sebastian through Google Chrome is Beanfeast.
 

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Devils got creamed by the Bruins. It's literally the single most cursed match up out of all the teams in the NHL.

Schneider got sent down to the AHL and the Devils called up Louis Domingue to play backup to MacKenzie Blackwood.

I am sad for Cory, but hopefully he can work out his issues in Binghamton and come back strong.
 

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After getting hammed by Pittsburgh and Boston last week, Devils win 5-1 against fellow basement dwellers Detroit. It was Domingue's first game in net as a Devil.
 

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After getting hammed by Pittsburgh and Boston last week, Devils win 5-1 against fellow basement dwellers Detroit. It was Domingue's first game in net as a Devil.
We beat them last night, 2-0 (really 1-0 since the last was an EN). Howard kept them alive for most of it. Reimer got his first shutout as a 'Cane and his first since March of '18. Last few games have been good to us. We dropped one or two but we have won the last 4 of our road games.
 

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Sabres back in the win column after a solid 5-2 effort over the Panthers (completing a Bills-Sabres two-win Sunday). The euphoria may be short lived as they play the Lightning tonight.
 

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Putting the NHL on notice... the Avalanche are starting to get healthy again...
 

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Sabres back in the win column after a solid 5-2 effort over the Panthers (completing a Bills-Sabres two-win Sunday). The euphoria may be short lived as they play the Lightning tonight.
And just when you thought they might be pulling out of their funk, the Sabres imploded in the third period last night against the Lightning. They'd outshot the Bolts almost 2-1 through the first two periods, but found themselves down 3-2 at the end of the second. During a Sabres powerplay, Erik Cernak of TB elbowed Rasmus Dahlin in the head, nearly knocking him out and giving him a concussion. Even with blood on the ice, the referees failed to call a penalty (Cernak to have a hearing today). Then in the third the Sabres allowed two shorthanded goals during the same penalty and it was good night Irene.
 

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Mike Babcock got fired but Jeff Blashill still has a job. The Leafs are doing way better than the Wings this year.

I don't think Stevie Y will fire him this year, but he will need to do much better as the season moves forward if he wants the job next year.
 

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Mike Babcock got fired but Jeff Blashill still has a job. The Leafs are doing way better than the Wings this year.

I don't think Stevie Y will fire him this year, but he will need to do much better as the season moves forward if he wants the job next year.
Sounds like Babcock was just a locker room terror. When you have a guy like Auston Matthews come out about how poor everything was in that locker room with him at the helm, something was going on. It's so weird to me too, because up until this whole thing, I was a huge fan of Babcock. I'd be wary of hiring him if I were a GM somewhere.

I still find it weird that the Wings chose to extend Blashill. His record really hasn't been that spectacular.
 

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Devils had the only Turkey Day game and it was a great 6-4 win over the Habs at the Bell Center. Cary Price had a hissy fit and broke his stick.

Of course Our Hated Rivals blanked us 0-4 on Saturday. Tonight we play the Sabres.
 

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Eh maybe. The Sabres have been playing much better the last handful of games. Despite getting outshot 43-30 in their last game in Toronto, they actually outplayed the Leafs for most of the game and only won because Andersen stood on his head. A good chunk of Toronto's shots were from the outside. Unfortunately the shot what won the game for TO in OT was a long shot that should have been easily handled by Hutton. He might have to go back to school.
 

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Well as it turns out, not only is Mike Babcock a giant piece of crap, Bill Peters was somehow even worse. I'm incredibly disappointed in how Ron Francis appears to have handled the Peters issue when he was GM of the 'Canes.
 

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Sorry kjel (not sorry!)

The Sabres seem to be pulling out of their funk, and the Devils just got in their way. The Devils seriously look like the Sabres did in the depths of the Tank for Eichel. Not pretty. And Domingue isn't much of a goalie. When he first came up with Arizona I thought he looked good, but I guess it didn't last.
 

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I think the gaoltending for the Devils is going to be haunted by the great Martin Brodeur for a long, long time. Trying to step into his skates is asking a lot of any netminder.
 

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I won't disagree, but the rest of the Devils gave up gobs of juicy opportunities.

Hopefully as Jack Hughes matures a good team will be built around him. Jack Eichel's in his 5th season and the Sabres are only now showing glimpses of being competent.
 

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Sorry kjel (not sorry!)

The Sabres seem to be pulling out of their funk, and the Devils just got in their way. The Devils seriously look like the Sabres did in the depths of the Tank for Eichel. Not pretty. And Domingue isn't much of a goalie. When he first came up with Arizona I thought he looked good, but I guess it didn't last.
Spectacularly ugly showing by the Devils. Probably one of the worst games I've seen in the past 5 years.

I think the gaoltending for the Devils is going to be haunted by the great Martin Brodeur for a long, long time. Trying to step into his skates is asking a lot of any netminder.
It's hard moving on from having the GOAT. Schneider played brilliantly for several seasons but we had an otherwise crappy team, then he got injured and hasn't been the same since. I like Blackwood and think he can do well in the long run, but he still has some maturing to do. Domingue is just meh, but he's here on a 1 year contract so I don't think he matters much in the grand scheme of things.

I won't disagree, but the rest of the Devils gave up gobs of juicy opportunities.

Hopefully as Jack Hughes matures a good team will be built around him. Jack Eichel's in his 5th season and the Sabres are only now showing glimpses of being competent.
Devils had a poor showing offensively, defensively, and goaltending. The earned the score they got. At this point I think there needs to be a change in coaching staff, there are enough good ingredients on the ice now that IMHO it is a coaching issue.
 

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Yes, that's actually what the consensus was on the Sabres forum.... the Devils should be better than this based on the sum of their parts.

The Sabres are having a very Jekyl-and-Hyde season. In October it looked like they'd finally arrived. They looked just as bad as the Tank years in November, and now in December they suddenly remembered how to play. Part of it is due to injuries. Part is learning a new system. Part is having an unconventional coach in Ralph Krueger. I think there are also some very talented, but very young, players on the team and they seem to be streaky so far.

(If you don't know his background he grew up in hockey in Canada, had a brief stint coaching in Edmonton, went to Europe and ran the Swiss national hockey program with overachieving results, then spent several years as chairman of a soccer team in the UK. He's a motivational speaker with several published books; he's not your average NHL head coach; he's more of a Renaissance Man, and we still don't if that's a good thing or not.)
 

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Just in....Hynes is being relieved of his coaching duties and Alain Nasreddine is interim head coach who will be assisted by Peter Horacheck.

 

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Rumors are swirling that Taylor Hall will be traded soon.

He'll be UFA at the end of the season and I don't think there's any way he'd resign. Best thing for Shero to do is trade him for some younger/cheaper assets.
 

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We've talked about him on the Sabres forum. Consensus is unless a signed contract is involved, he won't return more than draft picks.

Sabres are treading .500 water these days, an improvement over their awful November. Beating Edmonton was a welcome win, especially since they managed to shut down the McDavid line.
 

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Boy, the Metro is freaking red hot this year. 'Canes are in 5th with 37 points. That'd be good for second in most of the other divisions. Crazy to think that we are coming up on the halfway point in the season.
 

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Boy, the Metro is freaking red hot this year. 'Canes are in 5th with 37 points. That'd be good for second in most of the other divisions. Crazy to think that we are coming up on the halfway point in the season.
Damn Caps and their 49 points.

Devils have 23 points.
 

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Sabres finding their groove again. Beat St. Louis 5-2 last night in a game that had a playoff feel. The Blues didn't want to go away, but the Sabres never trailed. They traded goals all night until the Sabres finally potted a couple empty netters at the end.
 

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Devils lost again to the Stars. At least they didn't get creamed.
 

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Yet another courageous effort from the Sabres, this time against the Predators. Jack Eichel scores 2 goals to move ahead of Alex Ovechkin in goals with 22 on the season, behind only David Pastrnak. His linemate, Viktor Olofsson, with a goal tonight leads all rookies in points and goals. Jack is the foundation of the team, but all the lines are pitching in now. Young D stud Rasmus Dahlin looked good tonight in his first game back after a concussion.

It was a full team effort where they handled another "heavy" team. Early in the season they were destroyed by teams who played a heavy game.
 

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I hate when the Hurricanes go on the road to the west coast. I can't watch any games because they come on too late. Last nights went to OT in Vancouver, so I imagine it ended around 12:30 or 1.
 

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Being in the CT zone, those west coast games are an hour earlier for me, so I'll usually watch them. Looks like you were better off not watching, based on the outcome.

Filip Hronek of the Red Wings scores an empty netter from behind his own goal line on the fly.

 

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Being in the CT zone, those west coast games are an hour earlier for me, so I'll usually watch them. Looks like you were better off not watching, based on the outcome.

Filip Hronek of the Red Wings scores an empty netter from behind his own goal line on the fly.

The Wings FINALLY won a game. It was a very impressive shot, however I think he was just clearing it out. I love how he asked "What Happened?" when his team was celebrating with him.
 

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Farewell Taylor Hall....

Traded to Arizona along with AHLer Blake Speers in exchange for Arizona's 2020 first round pick, conditional 2021 3rd round pick, D-man Kevin Bahl (OHL), and forwards Nick Merkley and Nate Schnarr both in the AHL.

I think it's official that GM Ray Shero is tearing this team down and rebuilding around the young core.

Now we just need a coach.
 

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I read that Shero has basically put the whole team on the block. Shame too. Sometimes stacking teams with superstars just doesn't work out. Ask the Yankees!!

The 'Canes are something like 13-4-1 when Jordan Martinook is on the ice. They were 7-7-3 whenever he was injured. Sometimes the leadership comes from those unsung heroes. He's not flashy on the ice, he's not a PPG player, but he's just an incredible dude.
 

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It's painful but really it's been necessary since Brodeur retired I think.

Before getting serious the Sabres spent far too many years as a bubble team, not a real contender, but each year it was harder to make the playoffs. One problem they had, incidentally, was they didn't a Martinook. They were pretty much devoid of real leaders after they lost Drury and Briere. What was left was what we called "the rotten core." Without leadership our core players weren't a cohesive group. So they get rid of Vanek and Ennis and Pominville and Stafford and Ryan Miller and took it down to scorched earth.

Their new core is built around Eichel (obviously) and Reinhart (who was #2 overall the previous year), and I guess you could say Skinner, Dahlin and now Olofsson are part of that core. But in the beginning it was just Eichel and Reinhart.

They hired Tim Murray who promised an accelerated rebuild. The problem was that for all the assets Darcy Regier acquired, Tim Murray was too loose with them, spending them too casually, winning individual trades, sure, but not building a cohesive team. He spent a first on Robin Lehner which was insane; the Sabres would have been so much further ahead with another first round pick. He did bring in Ryan O'Reilly which seemed like a good move. He brought in some veteran leadership in the form of Brian Gionta and Josh Jorges and others. The problem was, the results never came.

Exit Murray, enter Jason Botterill. His trade of O'Reilly to St. Louis is still a source of criticism but otherwise he seems to do be doing a creditable job on the rebuild. The last couple seasons have shown promise, but so far they haven't managed to sustain it. After their 10-game winning streak last year the were awful and Coach Phil Housley lost them.

It appeared to be happening again this year with Ralph Krueger- after a hot start they dipped badly in November, but look better so far in December. Jack Eichel is approaching elite status as a player and they've earned points in 9 of their last 10 games. But they're still a young team that's missing some pieces. Their top line (Olofsson-Eichel-Reinhart) is one of the better ones in the league, but production drops off quickly after that. Jeff Skinner hasn't been able to maintain production without Eichel. This team really needs a legitimate 2C. But their 4th line (Okposso-Larsson-Girgensons) is smothering against other teams' top lines. Their special teams started out hot in October but really haven't been anywhere close to that. In contrast to past seasons, their 5-on-5 play has improved considerably but their power play is gone. If they could get it back they could move from bubble team to legitimate playoff team.

Anyway, I think the whole point of this is that rebuilds can be long and hard, even if they're necessary. NJ fans have to hang in there; better days are coming but there will be rough patches along the way.
 

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Being able to play fun hockey is important. Just ask the Calgary Flames. After Peters took a hike, they went on a tear (that is until we stomped them into the dirt 4-0).
 

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The Kings released Ilya Kovalchuk...I had no idea he was playing in the NHL this season.

It's painful but really it's been necessary since Brodeur retired I think.
Sitting five rows back from the glass on the end with the goal Broduer was manning for two periods against the Thrashers is one of my greatest sports memories - it was freaking awesome.
 

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Avs lost to St Louis last night in the battle for the top teams in the Central. Injuries still plague them as their twop 2 defensemen (Makar and Johnson) are out. So glad that the wife singed up for Disney+, and added ESPN+... I have been able to watch a ton of games so far.

In other news, my Beer League team goes for the Fall Championship tonight. Should be a tough battle, and our goalie is injured--but fortunately we are able to sub in with someone decent. (shameless plug in the name of hockey).
 

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The Kings released Ilya Kovalchuk...I had no idea he was playing in the NHL this season.
The Kings have 11 million in cap space tied up in Kovalchuck, Dion Phaneuf, and Mike Richards. None of those guys play for the team anymore.

The Devils have almost 10 million in cap space tied up in Hall, Schneider, Cammaleri, and also (quite hilariously) Kovalchuck!! None of those guys play for them anymore either.
 

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I read that Shero has basically put the whole team on the block. Shame too. Sometimes stacking teams with superstars just doesn't work out. Ask the Yankees!!

The 'Canes are something like 13-4-1 when Jordan Martinook is on the ice. They were 7-7-3 whenever he was injured. Sometimes the leadership comes from those unsung heroes. He's not flashy on the ice, he's not a PPG player, but he's just an incredible dude.
Probably. To be fair Shero inherited a bowl of turds from Lou Lamoriello. He's dealt with pretty well IMHO. The "rebuild" started under Lou's watch but it was always half assed and then he went to Toronto.

The Kings released Ilya Kovalchuk...I had no idea he was playing in the NHL this season.
He's a bitch. We call him Kovalsuck in NJ.

Sitting five rows back from the glass on the end with the goal Broduer was manning for two periods against the Thrashers is one of my greatest sports memories - it was freaking awesome.
Broduer is the GOAT.
 
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Sabres lose to the Leafs.

I hate the Leafs.

I hate losing to the Leafs.

That is all.



No, that's not all.... with a goal and an assist, Eichel kept his scoring streak alive.
 

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A coworker took his wife and kids to the Red Wings game last night. Less than $50 for 4 tickets (including fees) for 2nd row, center ice, in the 2nd level. I remember the days when those tickets would have been $150 each. Oh how the mighty have fallen!
 
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