JNL said:
eG, I'm enjoying this debate and I look forward to your response

In the meantime, may I share some lyrics from a song by my aunty who is a reasonably well-known singer here.
Neutral and Nuclear Free
....Let them be
Neutral and nuclear free
Flicked the fear out of the family
I got natural friends who are naturally
Neutral and nuclear free
Catchy Tune, I'm surprised our Barbara hasn't done a cover yet. Yes it is the path of Gandhi, enlightenment and good Karma.... but it is easy to be nuclear free when you are living under another's defense umbrella. When Kiwis start dieing in large numbers in the homeland because no one nuked the Chinese invasion fleet headed your way, well I guess you’d be Ok with that? You would have your principles, well those left alive would.
May I ask you this question? What would you do if tomorrow the US and the UK unilaterally disarmed and announced positions of neutrality? Let’s say everyone gave up their nukes except…oh…let’s say China. Yes, we all decided to take your nation’s path. We are all very peaceful and neutral. We just don’t want to get involved. It is none of our business. We have beaten our nukes into radioactive plowshares. The doves live large. The US has pulled out of all foreign ports and taken its soldiers home. We now maintain an army equal to Canada’s because we don’t want to seem aggressive.
What happens to New Zealand in the next ten years? What happens to the world? How much of the world’s population no longer has the option of being pacifistic because they are too busy working for the Chinese Hegemony in the ore mines?
You’re leaders are living a fictional world enabled by leaders that can’t make the distinction between right and wrong. Your leaders have lost their ability to use judgment. Why is it western societies are the only ones so seemingly suicidal and self-immolating? Why the self-loathing?
While I love a protest singer singing a protest song I also know that the man with a knife is king in a world of pacifists. Everything I needed to learn about geopolitics comes from a gentleman who hails from NYC.
Would you be comfortable if the US declared it our official policy to never come to the aid of a neutral country? If not why not?
“If you think a weakness can be turned into a strength, I hate to tell you this, but that's another weakness.”
-Jack Handy
“I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.”
-Jack Handy
“If I was the head of a country that lost a war, and I had to sign a peace treaty, just as I was signing I'd glance over the treaty and then suddenly act surprised. "Wait a minute! I thought WE won!"
-Jack Handy
“Probably to a shark, about the funniest thing there is is a wounded seal, trying to swim to shore, because WHERE DOES HE THINK HE'S GOING?!”
-Jack Handy
America – Keeping people free since 1776
You want us on that wall, you need us on that wall.
JESSEP
(continuing)
Son, we live in a world that has walls. And those walls have
to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You?
You, Lt. Weinberg? I have a greater responsibility than
you can possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago and you
curse the marines. You have that luxury. You have the
luxury of not knowing what I know: That Santiago's death,
while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while
grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives.
(beat)
You don't want the truth. Because deep down, in places you
don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall. You NEED
me there.
(boasting)
We use words like honor, code, loyalty...we use these words
as the backbone to a life spent defending something. You
use 'em as a punchline.
(beat)
I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself
to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very
freedom I provide, then questions the manner in which I
provide it.
I'd prefer you just said thank you and went on
your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon and
stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you
think you're entitled to.
KAFFEE
(quietly)
Did you order the code red?
JESSEP
(beat)
I did the job you sent me to do.
KAFFEE
Did you order the code red?
JESSEP
(pause)
You're goddamn right I did.