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Floridays

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This has got to be the most tasteless and inane idea that has come about since reality shows have reared their ugly heads.

20/20 will air "Be My Baby" at 10 p.m. Friday and will feature 5 couples "competing" and "vying" to adopt a baby boy. Barbara Walters will host the show.

It's one thing for grown adults to survive on an island or search for their future husband/wife on TV.

But to auction a child as some sort of prize is bull****. There are lots of couples out there who are trying to adopt a child through a lengthy and expensive legal process. Sheesh.
 

mendelman

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I echo Floridays' sentiments.

This is just TV depravity and exploitation, thinly veiled as 'news'.

I hate 20/20 and B. Walters.

They both were good about 15 years ago, but now are just completely worthless.
 

Richmond Jake

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Nothing suprises me anymore. I guess I'm immune to all this crap or I simply don't care.
 

Budgie

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I quit watching television about 5 years ago for this very reason not to mention that sitcoms of full of grown people acting like children spending all of their time trying to appear witty by subtle putdowns and sexual inuendo. I really don't want to get started on this topic because I have things to do........ But believe the "The Truman Show" is only a couple of seasons away.

This adoption thing makes me sick to my stomach. Why doesn't everyone just pick up a good book instead? Boobus americana is a pathetic genre of the human race.
 

SlaveToTheGrind

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I agree with what has been said. The other shows are for entertainment, thinly veiled as they are, but to have 'reality' show to adopt a baby is a new low.

Why can't a network have a show called "Who wants to be a Planner?"
 

Tom R

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baby

Every time I think that TV can get no lower, they prove me wrong. Next will be a competition as to who will start the drugs to flow for an execution. Why not? I bet it would sell. Sponsored by a pharmaceutical conglomerate.
 

Big Easy King

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Tom R said:
Next will be a competition as to who will start the drugs to flow for an execution. Why not? I bet it would sell. Sponsored by a pharmaceutical conglomerate.
I'm appalled to hear about, "Be My Baby" and that reality shows have reached that point. However, I won't be surprised if a point of no return will be reached, as so duly commented.
 

Seabishop

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Whenever I think we as a culture have reached new lows I always think about my idea for "X-Treme Russian Roullette." This could take the form of an amusement park/casino game or a reality TV show. Someone would pay $500 for the opportunity to spin on a big wheel. A single bullet would be randomly shot at the wheel. Either you survive, you're injured, or you're "eliminated." Contestants would fill out all the appropriate legal paperwork, and medical personnel would be on hand. It would be controversial of course but thousands of people with nothing else to do would gladly play or be featured on such a show. The game would be a perfect fit for the thrill seeking, life de-valuing, segment of our culture. I'm sure you see people everyday who would "not give a $%#&" enough to sign up. It would probably wipe out half of males ages 13-25.
 

Budgie

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Does anyone remember the cult documentary classic "Faces of Death"? I can see a reality shows based on this. Of course, you can see this kind of stuff on Discovery, National Geographic and The Learning Channel.

All I can do is follow my conscious (yes I have one), which tells me to avoid television. It would be nice if everyone else would do the same, but curiousity tends to get the best of us.
 
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Rob actually sent ABC an email this morning about it after we saw the commercial last night. As a couple that has grappled with infertility, but ultimately came out ok, this whole thing really affected us. I just can't believe that any of those couples would participate in such a circus. sigh.
 

boiker

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This is why the only tv I watch is cartoons.

Cartoons have scripts are not reality and are actually entertaining.
 

Big Easy King

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Budgie said:
Does anyone remember the cult documentary classic "Faces of Death"?
I remember it, but I've never seen it. I hear it's gory. Was the documentary a three-part series?
 

Budgie

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Big Easy King said:
I remember it, but I've never seen it. I hear it's gory. Was the documentary a three-part series?
I only remember seeing the first two documentaries. I think the first one was so popular that they decided to add additional parts. The first one was not that gory, but it did show various types of death from the human and animal worlds. The scene that freaked me out the most was the electric chair execution that was on the first show. It's the fact that you saw real people and animals really dying that was gut wrenching. You see these things in the movies alot, but when it's real, that's something all together different.
 

Super Amputee Cat

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mendelman said:
I echo Floridays' sentiments.

This is just TV depravity and exploitation, thinly veiled as 'news'.

I hate 20/20 and B. Walters.

They both were good about 15 years ago, but now are just completely worthless.
I agree with most everything said here. Exploiting children is a new low, even for Reality TV. But it could be worse. Instead of Walers we could have Katie Curek (sp?)
 

ludes98

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I hate so called "reality tv," but thankfully so does my wife. The news is enough reality.
 

jmf

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CBC ran an interview yesterday about this show with a media expert from somewhere in the US (sorry I can't be more specific). This gist of the interview was that ABC is using the fascination with reality tv as a lure for watching the show and that it is really a documentary about couples who want to adopt and the hurdles which they must face. As the expert said - the real life adoption process is not unlike a game of elimination based on the couple and child involved.

Apparently, Barbara Walters is an adoptive parent herself and has, over the years, been very sensitive to adoption issues. The expert felt that she would not be involved with something so distasteful and that it was an advertising spin on a legitimate documentary.

I hope he is right - we don't have cable so if anyone sees it I would be interested in hearing about the show.
 

michaelskis

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At the entrance to many TV network buildings there is a sign. It reads:

“Welcome to hell, please place your ethics, morals, and conscience in the tray before you enter the door. You may, or may not have them returned to you once you leave.”
 
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Quotes from the show

From 20/20's website:

"We were joking about the fact that it's like The Bachelor, The Bachelorette. You're in or you're out tonight," says Tab.

"It will be devastating if we're not picked," says Steve.

"Adoption is their last hope to have a child. Over the last four years, Tina has undergone several unsuccessful surgeries for infertility. "There were things that I wouldn't even anticipate would make me cry … I took a different route in the store because I didn't want to walk by all the baby products," says Tina. "

"Here was a 16-year-old who was in total control of our lives. She had in her hands our happiness."


There is no way in hell I would subject my self to this on national television, and I can't imagine the adoption agency could ethically go along with this - I don't even think I could watch the program. sigh.
 

SGB

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jmf said:
..... an advertising spin on a legitimate documentary.
This phrase seems oxymoronic to me....

I guess I prefer my "legitimate documentaries" to be sponsored by grant funding and viewers like me...... :-\

Well intentioned or not, this whole commercialized presentation of the adoption process is another sad indicator of our declining civilization. :-#
 

Rumpy Tunanator

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Man, what does everybody have against me auctioning off my kid on live television? Rumpy Jr. needs a good home, what would you do? Jeese, you'd think that everybody had morals all of the sudden.;)
 

Seabishop

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I guess I'll have to watch it to have my questions answered but is it really that competitive to adopt? I've known several people who've adopted and while they had to wait a while to go through red tape it wasn't competitive. Is there something magical about this baby boy?
 

Zoning Goddess

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Seabishop said:
I guess I'll have to watch it to have my questions answered but is it really that competitive to adopt?
In many instances it is competitive. The birth mother picks between couples registered with the agency. I went thru this as a prospective adoptive parent. At the time my ex- and I were finally picked, I discovered I was pregnant with my son, so we declined the adoption.
 

Budgie

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SGB said:
Well intentioned or not, this whole commercialized presentation of the adoption process is another sad indicator of our declining civilization. :-#
HERE, HERE !!!!!!!!!
 

Chet

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mike gurnee said:
I am waiting for a series where couples compete to make babies.
Better -- lesbian couples competing to convince their male friends to be the donor and sign away all parental rights. Oh wait, they should do that, I could win that.
 

Budgie

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mike gurnee said:
I am waiting for a series where couples compete to make babies.
It's called "Blind Date". What's the name of the one where they start with a double date and then they throw in a third women to shake things up?
 

JNL

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Tranplanner said:
Reality TV is much more exciting in New Zealand!
Ha ha :-} 27kg fleece!!!!

Re the baby show - sick. Very sick. Would not watch it and can't believe it got to production.
 
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Seabishop said:
I guess I'll have to watch it to have my questions answered but is it really that competitive to adopt? I've known several people who've adopted and while they had to wait a while to go through red tape it wasn't competitive. Is there something magical about this baby boy?
I was always under the impression that the demand for white male babies made the adoption process more competitive.
 

jmf

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SGB said:
This phrase seems oxymoronic to me....

I guess I prefer my "legitimate documentaries" to be sponsored by grant funding and viewers like me...... :-\

Well intentioned or not, this whole commercialized presentation of the adoption process is another sad indicator of our declining civilization. :-#
Point taken - perhaps what I should have said was "a typical 20/20 piece of reporting".

And, don't get me wrong, I agree with the consensus that this is an appalling presentation of a very sensitive issue.
 

JNA

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The conservative Indianaplois Star
http://www.indystar.com/articles/1/142065-4051-062.html
reprinted this commentary:

"For me, the most intrusive and abrasive moment in this "20/20" ... when Jessica,
(16-year-old) cradling her newborn, has the transfer contract placed in front of her on the hospital bedside table. At that moment, when she has to decide whether to keep her promise or her baby, tears flood out of her, dropping directly on the child.
That's something I didn't need to see, something so private I don't think anyone outside that room necessarily needs to see it, either."
 

Dragon

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Budgie said:
It's called "Blind Date". What's the name of the one where they start with a double date and then they throw in a third women to shake things up?
"5th Wheel" I think is what you are talking about.

The TV show is a horrible idea, and I hope no one watches it.
 
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