"Those whom would give up essential liberties for temporary security deserve neither liberty nor security"Repo Man said:
The way to make a society free and reasonably safe is to put in appropriate support measures for Good Stuff. Merely focusing on squashing bad stuff...can leave you a vacuum more dangerous than what you have squashed and can promote bad stuff since focusing on something tends to magnify the issue. I agree: excessive.Wulf9 said:
I took a look at the exhibition last week. It's quite nice.
Last year, on my way out of town, I took a few picts of the Newark International NJ Transit station. A lady official on the opposite platform sprinted over, arms flailing, and yelled, "Stop! No pictures!"mgk920 said:
And in the interest of being inclusionary, no detailed descriptions for visually-impaired potential terrorists, either.Cardinal said:
A few years ago I had an encounter with a MARTA train station manager (who struck me as smart as the proverbial sack of hammers) who hassled me about my photography in a rude and hostile manner. I argued the point but she began escalating it in the direction of the MARTA police. Not willing to get arrested over the issue, since I already had my shots anyhow, I left the station and phoned MARTA, and received a call and apology from both MARTA's lawyer and the head of their police department. I was told there was no policy against photography, and the station manager was just ill informed.GCT13 said:
Heh well, for an update, the CTA has said that they're "not considering" a photography ban. Appearently what happened was that a local reporter asked the CTA president if they might do that too to find a local angle to the story and the CTA president said "Yeah I guess" or something like that.jordanb said:
Actually, this is kind of ironic, a couple of months ago an Iraqi family that lives here in Buffalo was videotaping the water plant down by the lake for some odd reason. The police stopped to check them and then let them go. Apparently they were tapping it to send it back to family in Iraq. Now that strikes me as odd. Why would they be tapping the water plant?B-)JNA said:
I rue the day they even begin to float the idea of a picture ban at Grand Central Terminal, the finest public space in NYC. But it doesn't take a big leap to imagine, if the subway ban is approved, that the policy voraciously grows to include all MTA properties.Rumpy Tunanator said:
Look. Don't beat around the bush here - cameras don't take pictures, PEOPLE take pictures. What are people doing mucking around there in the first place? These are highly expensive, complex, technologically sophisticated operations areas, and all people do is inflict wear and tear, and shorten the usable life span of the project. They spray graffitt on the side of cars, they spill coffee on the seats, they wear down the treads in the stairway. Think how long the subway would last if - once we built it, we sucked all the air out and made a vacuum, and closed it off to all access? I bet we'd have that system for centuries, and no nasty little terrorists will get anywhere near. Same with our landmarks. How long will they last if we let people put their grubby little hands all over them? No, what we need to do is go to the ROOT of the problem, and enslave (oops) PROTECT the entire population in little glass bubbles, with a virtual reality based on the teletubbies world to live in where they can be of no harm to anyone or anything, and they can touch, step on, and photograph all they like without harming any of the precious resources we hold so dear.Plannerbabs said:
