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Scary, scary, scary drive to work

Dan

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Took me two and a half hours to drive to work today.

TWO AND A HALF HOURS.

Why? Because the path between my house and were I work was ground zero of this morning's non-stop snowfall, and there was no way around it. As usual, all the ODOT plows were on Cleveland's West Side. I live on the East Side, which usually gets twice the snowfall of the West Side. Every school is closed, every senior center is closed, job training programs are all closed, but LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS OPEN!

Because I-90 was literally a sheet of ice, I had about fifteen to twenty 90-degree spinouts along a half-mile stretch of road; we're talking about going from parallel with the lane to perpendicular. Along one stretch, it was creep forward, slide sideways, straighten out, slide sideways, straighten out, slide, straighten ... scary ****. "But you were driving too fast!", you might say. The speedometer was pegged while this happened - at the bottom. I was going about 3 or 4 MPH, if that. The car would have slid if it was standing still. The traction control light was on for much of the ride in.

Why didn't I get smacked in the side? A look in the rear view mirror would show that everyone else behind me was spinning out, too. An ice-coated surface, heavy banking, and NO FRIGGING PLOWS OR SALT add up to the most white-knuckle driving experience ever.

Seriously, I feel damn lucky that I didn't get into a bad, traffic-stopping accident on my way in.

Mother Nature, you stone-cold bitch. Bite me.
 

SGB

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Wow, that bites! 8-!

Glad you made it in safely.

We got about a foot of snow yesterday through this morning, but my morning commute was only about 20% longer than usual.
 

Seabishop

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Next time don't bother. They shouldn't expect you to get killed to go to work during something like that. You tried and it was too dangerous. If you can call out because you have a tummy ache, you should be able to call out you're ready to crash every few feet. Just my opinion.
 

giff57

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Dan said:
Mother Nature, you stone-cold bitch. Bite me.


ahh, so the snow has reached Ohio. We got close to a foot Sunday through Monday. No ice though thankfully. Have the cold air from Alberta....thanks Nerudite! -30 windchill this morn.
 

Rumpy Tunanator

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What happened to the rugged nerves of steel you spoke of yesterday;)

-Got a foot yesterday, and about a foot this morning. 20 minutes to get to work once the damn bus showed up to take me to the train.
 

PlannerByDay

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Seabishop said:
Next time don't bother. They shouldn't expect you to get killed to go to work during something like that. You tried and it was too dangerous. If you can call out because you have a tummy ache, you should be able to call out you're ready to crash every few feet. Just my opinion.


I SECOND THAT

Here in Michigan we got between 10 and 12 inchs. I thought about calling in today but thougth I'd give it a shot. I figured if I got on the road and got freaked out I'd turn around.

But here I am, slackin away on cyburbia OPPS I mean working away.
 

michaelskis

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Wow... that must have sucked... You should have called in, and told them that you would be more than happy to come in, if the Mayor himself came and got you.

I lived a half-hour from College my last year up there. There would be times that the road would be closed because of white out conditions and blowing and drifting snow, but Northern Michigan University would still be open. Oh to make thins worse, it was almost always too cold for salt to work. So I can feel for you. I have spun out more times than I would like to remember. I was just fortunate that there was so much snow, that the snow banks would prevent me from going into the ditch. Ahhh the joys of an Upper Peninsula Winter.
 

Cardinal

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Michaelskis brings up an interesting thought. Out west there are gates on the freeway entrances, and if conditions are bad enough, the roads are closed. Why is it that we do not do this in the "east."
 

jordanb

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They occasionally close the interstates in downstate Illinois. I've seen it happen before. Usually they just put cops or moveable barracades on the onramps.

I imagine the expressways around Chicago are used enough that they don't have to do that.

Still, all the more reason to take the train. ;-)
 

Dragon

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WOW!!! That is crazy, glad you are safe though.

I couldn't imagine a 2.5 hour commute. Not to mention my car spinning sideways on the road. I keep thinking that I would like to move up north and enjoy some snowfall as I pursue a masters , but from the horror stories I keep hearing about winter up there, maybe I should reconsider. I haven't seen snow in almost 5 or 6 years, and I miss it. Not so much that I would go through that though.
 

nerudite

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giff57 said:
ahh, so the snow has reached Ohio. We got close to a foot Sunday through Monday. No ice though thankfully. Have the cold air from Alberta....thanks Nerudite! -30 windchill this morn.

LOL... not my fault! Our windchill is still worse than that, quit your whinin' ;)
 

mendelman

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Well, my morning commute yesterday was 2 hours, and we were getting snows also. Granted I wasn't slip, sliding away like Dan, though I was on the same interstate. ;-)

normally the commute is just a measly hour. ;-) :-\
 

ludes98

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Cardinal said:
Michaelskis brings up an interesting thought. Out west there are gates on the freeway entrances, and if conditions are bad enough, the roads are closed. Why is it that we do not do this in the "east."

I haven't seen gates on freeways, but when there is very heavy snowfall or very icy conditions on Interstate 17 between Phoenix and Flagstaff they do close it. Of course that would be because there are a lot of cliff-like drop-offs and 6% grades. There are some substantial drops that have no guardrail, but not many.
 

tsc

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they hyped up that snow storm... so many people stayed off the road. Which is just as well.. because the drive like morons when it snows around the NYC metro area. The roads were like an average upstate snow day.... so no problem for me. We got about 10 inches... and it fell through the night. I dont think I would have wanted to drive it when it was falling.
 

nerudite

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ludes98 said:
I haven't seen gates on freeways, but when there is very heavy snowfall or very icy conditions on Interstate 17 between Phoenix and Flagstaff they do close it. Of course that would be because there are a lot of cliff-like drop-offs and 6% grades. There are some substantial drops that have no guardrail, but not many.

Sometimes they put gates on freeway on the main roads over the mountain passes. I-90 over the Cascades I believe has them as well as the little highway that goes from Everett WA over the Cascades (I think Hwy 2?)... It's good because the average western washingtonian doesn't know squat about driving in snow.
 
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