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stern banishment

Howard Stern SUSPENDED? Well, I say...

  • Don't let the door hit your butt on the way out.

    Votes: 10 28.6%
  • Ever heard of the 1st Amendment? Go, Howard!

    Votes: 12 34.3%
  • I really don't give a darn either way.

    Votes: 12 34.3%
  • Other (see comments below)

    Votes: 1 2.9%

  • Total voters
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Floridays

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Just curious as to anyone's reaction to the Howard Stern show being suspended. I've had no choice...on our only classic rock station, the Stern show is syndicated in the morning. However, I didn't listen on Tuesday, or don't remember anything he said that was atypical.
Has he finally crossed the line? Will he be back? Do we care?
ho stern
 

Gedunker

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Clear Channel was fined $755,000 for some "indecency complaints" and has advised all of their jockeys that they had best toe the line. Bob and Tom in Indianapolis have agreed but Stern has not yet. He may or may not be back.

Here's a link to the Indianapolis Star about Bob/Tom and Clear Channel
www.indystar.com

IMO, I don't really care: I listen to cds or NPR.
 
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nerudite

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I don't really like Stern... never have. I think I've listened to him maybe once or twice without having to switch the station. When I lived in Washington I used to put his show on my clock radio on the other side of the room, because I hated his show so much most mornings I would have to get out of bed to go turn it off. Everything else I could ignore and just keep sleeping/lazing in bed. :)
 

martini

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I don't really care one way or the other. None of that stations I get contract with him, and I wouldn't listen anyways. I just don't search out that kind of humor.
 

Rumpy Tunanator

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The FCC is once again over reacting. First O&A, now this. If you don't like a radio program than change the channel.
 

Seabishop

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My personal opinion is that I'd like to see him unemployed on a park bench asking the women passing by if they've ever "done it with a girl" before they pepper spray him. How this guy got to monopolize morning radio is beyond me. I get stations from 2 markets and in the morning every other one is him.

I don't know if he did anything specific to warrant the fine, though. But now he's going to be a "courageous defender of free speech" instead of a guy who has made millions by talking about boobies on the radio.
 

biscuit

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I typically don't listen to Stern but did catch about 45 minutes of his Wednesday morning show while I was getting ready for work. What I heard was a political discussion between Stern and several members of his staff. Stern was saying that he hopes he gets fired because maybe then the FCC would outline exactly what is and isn't considered obscene. He started ranting against, and making rude remarks about, FCC chairman Michael Powell, saying that he knew nothing about broadcasting and got his job only because of who his father is. He then said FCC were acting like bullies hiding behind vague guidelines and that broadcasters should stop cow toeing to them. After that he starting in on President Bush and how he was going to personally see to it that Bush and his religious conservative administration was thrown out of office. I missed the rest because I had to get out the door and leave for work…

I honestly found it compelling stuff and was for the first time I was actually interested in his program.
 
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JNA

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not on any radio station here in SW Indiana.
We do have Bob & Tom and Johnboy & Billy Big Show.
 

Habanero

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Clear Channel is a bunch of :-c . You should read the shady stuff they do. In NYC, they own a few stations, Z100 being one of them. The station actually felt so bad about the deciet, they put a public announcement (I forgot if they did it in print or they bought time on other stations) telling people about how the contests that Clear Channel runs work:

They are nationwide contests with a predetermined time. If one radio stations clock in Colorado runs 5 mintues faster than the ones in NYC, the people in NYC, Atlanta, Chicago and LA NEVER had a chance to win. By the time they even start calling the number, the winner is off the phone and celebraiting. And instead of doing synced clocks or something logical like that, they shrug and say the hell with it. They also pulled the plug on a lot of stations programming and radically redid them. Turning Classic Rock stations into Hip-hop and crap like that.

I'm sad to see him leave, but atleast he's still on where I am. I think Janet Jackson's flashing had a lot to do with it, as did the election year and someone not wanting to lose.
 

Super Amputee Cat

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I have let my rabid hatred of Clear Channel be known many times on this and other forums. They are among the most foulest hypocrates among corporate America. And they are terrorists in every sense of the word: Powerful, unstoppable and unspeakably currupt.

I want them to lose all their licences and be fined so heavily that they are bankrupted for all eternity. I want their network of stations dismantled and sold by the FCC to local owners who will bring back responsible programming to the airwaves.

Some of the higher-ups at Clear Channel should go to jail forever for what they have done to radio in America. But a couple of dead CEOs would be too gleeful a joy for even me to even comprehend.

Still, I have soured on Howard Stern lately. I used to listen to him all the time and loved his movie Private Parts. But after he and his wife separated, all he talks about is boobs and 90% of the time when you randomly flip on E!, there's some floozie on there. I'm sick and tired of it. At least in the old days he talked about something other than T & A.
 

Seabishop

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Habanero said:
Clear Channel is a bunch of :-c .
Absolutely, like they didn't know what Howard Stern's show was like for years? They've made millions off him and now they'll get (mostly) good attention for canning him for indecency. Are they going to crack down on 50-Cent and crap they've been pushing on their stations?

Clear Channel officials should be unemployed with Stern trying to give passersby the priviledge of listening to the same Staind song 15 times a day for a few bucks.
 

Repo Man

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I agree with Rumpy. People who tune into Howards show know exactly what they are getting. This is not like the Super Bowl where people don't expect to see a breast. This is Howard Stern and people EXPECT this kind of talk. I am so sick of these whiny babies who cannot figure out how to use the "off" button. If you don't like scantly-clad women on mtv, cancel your cable, if you don't want to hear Howard talk about strippers and midgets, tune your radio to some dullard like Sean Hannity. Screw Clear Channel and thier knee-jerk censorship. I hope that company has some huge Enron-like scandal and their empire comes crumbling down.

I wonder (actually I HOPE) if the companies that bought ad time during Howards show will sue to get their $ back.
 

michaelskis

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Howard Stern is a joke. He gets has low self asteem, and to make him self feel good about being him, he has to scock people. I think that maybe Ms. Jackson's stunt at the Super Bowl was just what this society need. It showed that people are getting tired of the shock factor. I don't think that every one should sit by the radio and listen to light cheery shongs, but I don't think that anything that Stern has ever done is worth anything, and some people are dumber for listening and thinking about anything he had said, or done.
 

NHPlanner

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He's still on in Boston....and I still listen every morning.
 

ludes98

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I ocassionally listen to Howard when my regular local show is on vacation, but I have no idea why because I am constantly disappointed. Viacom owns Howard's show and I assume that they are still broadcasting even though CC is not.
 

otterpop

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Howard Stern is one of those people in the media who if he went away I would not miss.
 

Floridays

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NHPlanner said:
He's still on in Boston....and I still listen every morning.
What was their rationale for only taking it off of a select few stations? (includes Fort Lauderdale and Orlando, FL, Rochester, N.Y., San Diego, Pittsburgh and Louisville, KY). That isn't really accomplishing much. To me, it should be all or nothing.
 

NHPlanner

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Floridays said:
What was their rationale for only taking it off of a select few stations? (includes Fort Lauderdale and Orlando, FL, Rochester, N.Y., San Diego, Pittsburgh and Louisville, KY). That isn't really accomplishing much. To me, it should be all or nothing.
Easy. WBCN in Boston is not a Clear Channel station. Clear Channel is the one "suspending" him.
 

Chet

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michaelskis said:
Howard Stern is a joke. He gets has low self asteem, and to make him self feel good about being him, he has to scock people. I think that maybe Ms. Jackson's stunt at the Super Bowl was just what this society need. It showed that people are getting tired of the shock factor. I don't think that every one should sit by the radio and listen to light cheery shongs, but I don't think that anything that Stern has ever done is worth anything, and some people are dumber for listening and thinking about anything he had said, or done.
For once after being gone all day I read the entire thread before hitting 'reply'. I couldnt have said it better.
 

Zoning Goddess

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I don't care about Stern but I'm glad they fired "Bubba the Love Sponge". He was a problem (opened a club at one time) in the vicinity of my former place of employment and he is truly disgusting.
 

H

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I dont like Stern, find him disgusting. But do you know what I find worse? Censorship. It is a scary thing that can go too far. If you dont like him, dont listen to him. I didnt. :)
 

DecaturHawk

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H said:
I dont like Stern, find him disgusting. But do you know what I find worse? Censorship. It is a scary thing that can go too far. If you dont like him, dont listen to him. I didnt. :)
Howard wasn't censored. Censorship (aka "prior restraint") is something that the government does. In this case, Clear Channel made a business decision. Howard went too far, and Clear Channel decided that they would not risk losing listeners as a result. So, they cut him loose. As to the FCC fines, it sure has taken the FCC a long time to get around to it, wouldn't you say? The private businesses that provide radio entertainment refused to police themselves, continually pushing the envelope (George Carlin's famous "10 Dirty Words" of 30-odd years ago is incredibly tame by comparison) until the public outrage convinced the FCC to step in. Believe me, the world is a better place without the likes of Opie and Anthony on the radio.

The radio airwaves are not like cable TV. You have to pay extra for cable (or satellite, or whatever) and take steps to have it available in your home. But radio is free and available to anyone, anytime, including kids. You simply can't monitor radio in the same way as MTV. There is no place for shock jocks on radio that is easily accessed by children (it always amazes me how much effort is put into protecting idiots like Stern in the name of "free speech" for adults while at the same time we mess up our kids, but that's a whole 'nother thread). But those who just have to have puerile toilet humor on the radio, take heart! Now there's satellite radio.
 

PlannerByDay

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I said let the door hit him in the butt.

Butt, I really said I don't care. I don't listen to him because I don't find him entertaining and I feel if you are offended don't listen to him.
 

Habanero

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DecaturHawk said:
Howard wasn't censored. Censorship (aka "prior restraint") is something that the government does. In this case, Clear Channel made a business decision. Howard went too far, and Clear Channel decided that they would not risk losing listeners as a result. So, they cut him loose. As to the FCC fines, it sure has taken the FCC a long time to get around to it, wouldn't you say? The private businesses that provide radio entertainment refused to police themselves, continually pushing the envelope (George Carlin's famous "10 Dirty Words" of 30-odd years ago is incredibly tame by comparison) until the public outrage convinced the FCC to step in. Believe me, the world is a better place without the likes of Opie and Anthony on the radio.

The radio airwaves are not like cable TV. You have to pay extra for cable (or satellite, or whatever) and take steps to have it available in your home. But radio is free and available to anyone, anytime, including kids. You simply can't monitor radio in the same way as MTV. There is no place for shock jocks on radio that is easily accessed by children (it always amazes me how much effort is put into protecting idiots like Stern in the name of "free speech" for adults while at the same time we mess up our kids, but that's a whole 'nother thread). But those who just have to have puerile toilet humor on the radio, take heart! Now there's satellite radio.
He didn't do anything wrong, he had a normal show. A caller said the racist remark and he's being punished for that. Even the CEO of Clear Channel said it was a normal show. The FCC fines Howard regularly, in fact one of his main issues is that other people (like the creator/producer of NYPD Blue) were starting to whine about the FCC crawling up their bums and Howard was happy because none of these people stepped in for him when the FCC made home in his bum. The FCC has had double standards for a long, time they still do.

If people were more active in their kids lives I don't think we'd even have the arguement of not letting radio or tv raise children. The little knob on the left turns it off. If parents spent half the time raising they children as the should it wouldn't be a question. Granted, older kids may want to express themselves, but until my kids are out of my house they'll be expressing me and the house rules.
 

Rumpy Tunanator

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Habanero said:
The little knob on the left turns it off.
That sums it up. Who are these freaks that call the FCC in the first place? Come on if you don't like a program on the radio, then don't listen to it. Nobody is sticking a gun to their heads :-@.

Still on here.
 

boiker

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Here's how long I've subjected myself to stern through different media:

Listen to him on the Radio: maybe 20 minutes

Watch his E! show: maybe an hour

Read his book? (does he have one? I figure he would.): ZIP

Watch is movie: Only the glimpses I catch when channel surfing past USA network.

He's on the level with right-wing conservative radio. Generating his ratings through bull-headedness, cockyness, and 'shocking', disagreable comments and bits.
edit: will admit to listening to conservative radio to get myself politically pissed off more than I should

I rather spend my time on NPR or an unbranded Metal/Rock station.
 

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Habanero said:
If people were more active in their kids lives I don't think we'd even have the arguement of not letting radio or tv raise children. The little knob on the left turns it off. If parents spent half the time raising they children as the should it wouldn't be a question. Granted, older kids may want to express themselves, but until my kids are out of my house they'll be expressing me and the house rules.
I like your style.

I was seriously restricted and not allowed to watch certain things like MTV or other "risky" television shows or radio while growing up. Therefore my parents did not care what took place on the air, becuase it didnt impact me. People need to spend a little more time looking inward as opposed to outward for blame and wrong doings. Take responsibilty for YOURSELF. Turn the knob as Habanero said.

What is it they say about throwing the first stone?

And Stern (who, again, I dont care for) had and has an audience so dont tell me it is a moral corporate business decision, it is political pressure.
 
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metroboi

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This is a little off topic, but I like the point made about raising kids. I think one of the saddist reflections of middle class society these days is the dvd in the mini-van. So if endless hours of TV at home isn't enough, now you can have it on the road too.
 

BKM

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Amen, metroboi.

Of course, you can't forget that today's kids are so hyper-programmed (soccer MWF, Violin Lessons TT, 4 hours of homework every night, 'community service" Saturday and Sunday-all requiring lengthy car trips, that the DVD player is necessary to stop the little one's from going bonkers!

Thank God:

1. I don't have kids.

2. Am not a kid myself these days. :)
 

steveanne

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I think Stern is brilliant and he's one of the most interesting people in media. He speaks the truth in every word he says. He's still on in Chicago, and my commute wouldn't be the same without the show. Most people who mock him haven't listened to a full show.
 
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biscuit said:
After that he starting in on President Bush and how he was going to personally see to it that Bush and his religious conservative administration was thrown out of office. I missed the rest because I had to get out the door and leave for work…
We were listening this morning on the way into work - he was comparing the US to Afghanistan in that religion is starting to have undue influence on gov't. It makes me cringe to agree with him, but....
 
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DecaturHawk said:
The radio airwaves are not like cable TV. You have to pay extra for cable (or satellite, or whatever) and take steps to have it available in your home. But radio is free and available to anyone, anytime, including kids. You simply can't monitor radio in the same way as MTV. There is no place for shock jocks on radio that is easily accessed by children (it always amazes me how much effort is put into protecting idiots like Stern in the name of "free speech" for adults while at the same time we mess up our kids, but that's a whole 'nother thread). But those who just have to have puerile toilet humor on the radio, take heart! Now there's satellite radio.
Slighty OT

Allow me to introduce you to the music industry's newest sensation, Eamon. His current song is called "F**k It (I Don't Want You Back)." 2/3 of the song is bleeped out but anyone with half a brain can tell what the words are. A co-worker first told me about this guy. Apparently, his video is all over MTV and his song is all over the pop stations. Just when you thought pop music was safe for the kiddies, songs like this pop up on the radio. Why isn't the FCC targeting programmers who put this song in rotation? Is this anymore shocking than Howard Stern? You be the judge. :-\
 

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Planderella said:
Slighty OT

Allow me to introduce you to the music industry's newest sensation, Eamon. His current song is called "F**k It (I Don't Want You Back)." 2/3 of the song is bleeped out but anyone with half a brain can tell what the words are. A co-worker first told me about this guy. Apparently, his video is all over MTV and his song is all over the pop stations. Just when you thought pop music was safe for the kiddies, songs like this pop up on the radio. Why isn't the FCC targeting programmers who put this song in rotation? Is this anymore shocking than Howard Stern? You be the judge. :-\

I heard it this weekend, I wonder how many Clear Channel stations play that one.
 

Jen

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Howard stern show is raunch, but what i like about him, is he doesn't put the raunch on a pedestal or make it cute - i need to know what kind of yahoos the revoltin' underground is breeding out there, and he informs us of that. Public service in a way. though IMO his show crosses the line just about every damn time it airs!
 
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