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Jen

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I have no interest in watching the flak hit iraq, I pray it is over quick and that Saddam and his sons are accounted for (Dead or Alive)and in chains by the end of it all.
 

Cardinal

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As there are going to be many sources of news on the war itself, might I suggest we use this thread to focus on stories of the effects on cities and the environment? If you are agreeable, SGB, let's look for news related to the war and planning impacts.
 

The Irish One

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yeah I saw on ABC last night, maybe monday that archeologist were consulting (if not pleading) with the Pentagon to not bomb important archelogical sites in the country. There are 10,000 sites they had in mind, one of which Saddams palace sits right on top of -some mesopatamian suberb or tower of babel.
 

SGB

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Agreed!

Michael Stumpf said:
As there are going to be many sources of news on the war itself, might I suggest we use this thread to focus on stories of the effects on cities and the environment? If you are agreeable, SGB, let's look for news related to the war and planning impacts.
 

Chet

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The Irish one said:
yeah I saw on ABC last night, maybe monday that archeologist were consulting (if not pleading) with the Pentagon to not bomb important archelogical sites in the country. There are 10,000 sites they had in mind, one of which Saddams palace sits right on top of -some mesopatamian suberb or tower of babel.
4 out of 5 Archeologists agree... The Taliban were bad for Bhudda.
 

Chet

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Its cool, the war is over.. its cool

Awe buddy, I was just joshin'
 

Cardinal

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Re: GPS accuracy during wartime

SGB said:
For those that may not have seen the headline at Planetizen:

The accuracy of the Global Positioning System for civilian uses may be intentionally degraded during wartime.
You beat me to it. For an old-fashioned hiker/navigator like me, it won't make a bit of difference. Just give me a map and I'm fine. What about the idiots who go out into the wilderness thinking that technology is a substitute for know-how? A hundred meters is a long distance to be off, especially in some rugged terrain.

Then you have the work-related uses of GPS. I just told our public works folks that they should get a GPS and use it to locate all of the manholes and valves to import into our GIS. Oops.
 

Dan

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Just off the wire ... Hussein might have been in the bunker!

Hussein's Fate Still Uncertain
By Walter Pincus, Bob Woodward and Dana Priest
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, March 21, 2003; Page A01

U.S. intelligence officials believe Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, possibly accompanied by one or both of his powerful sons, was still inside a compound in southern Baghdad early yesterday when it was struck by a barrage of U.S. bombs and cruise missiles.

But intelligence analysts in Washington and operatives working in the region were not certain whether the Iraqi leader was killed or injured or escaped the attack, according to senior Bush administration officials, who worked yesterday to analyze a videotape of an appearance by Hussein broadcast on Iraqi television within hours of the pre-dawn bombardment.

"The preponderance of the evidence is he was there when the building blew up," said one senior U.S. official with access to sensitive intelligence. The official added that Hussein's sons, Qusay and Uday, may also have been at the compound. "He didn't get out" beforehand, another senior official said of the Iraqi president.



More at
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A682-2003Mar20.html
 

Chet

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They would have been fools to all be in the same bunker. Funny though, Hussein hasnt made any appearances on tv or radio since then, has he?
 

Cardinal

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Now the news is reporting that witnesses saw Saddam being carried out of the bunker on a guerney, wearing an oxygen mask. He may have been in there and injured. No word on his sons or other high command figures.
 

SGB

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Iraqi archeology

From the BBC: "Iraq is a country where some of the most sophisticated ancient civilisations once thrived. Today, the cities that were peopled by Babylonians, Assyrians and Sumerians have become fragile ruins...."

The Lost Palaces of Iraq
 

Habanero

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Is one of his son's paralyzed? What happened to their mother?
Just curious-

oh and..
"I think they're just glad to be out of the fight," Abbott said. "I'd much rather have them come surrender than have me have to go hump them out of holes."

how exactly do you hump someone out of a hole? are they treating them liek the donkey in the never ending thread (see, it's just resting, not dead).
 

NHPlanner

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Tranplanner said:


That last bit in the article about Iraqi civilians welcoming U.S. troops is extremely encouraging, if true.
I agree wholeheartedly! I'd love to see this over soon....the longer it goes, the more I worry about my brother-in-law...
 

Seabishop

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TexasPlanner said:
Is one of his son's paralyzed? What happened to their mother?
He's paralyzed but thats only because he was shot by someone not because he' s a poor disabled kid. This son is just as bad as his father - torture, murder of family members etc. According to his former security guard he would drag random women from the streets and rape and murder them. After he was shot Saddam declared the other son the heir - and he's supposed to be just as bad. I guess anyone would be like that if Saddam was their dad.
 

el Guapo

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Tranplanner said:
Sorry Paul. It's a national policy thing, not a personal jab. I'm just disappointed to find out who our true freinds really are. Truly just sad.


Well, many of them
are French Canadians...

THIS IS NOT MY POST! WHO EDITED MY POST?
 

Tranplanner

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El Guapo said:
Sorry Paul. It's a national policy thing, not a personal jab. I'm just disappointed to find out who our true freinds really are. Truly just sad.
It's alright Chris. I don't blame you for being disappointed. As for the anthem thing - well, that's just a juvenile response by a bunch of yahoo habs fans. It's not the first time either - for some reason over the past few years there have been a few instances of U.S. fans booing our anthem, and Canadians booing the U.S. anthem. I put it down to beer and the typical immature attitude that sporting events tend to engender.

Personally, I'm still somewhat torn on this whole Iraq conflict. I've been trying to figure out where I stand, and it's come down to a pragmatic/moralistic stance.

On the pragmatic side, I fully support the removal of Saddam Hussein. I still say it should have been done in 1991. I support the use of force in this case seeing as it was (to me at least) obvious that inspections were not working. I base this on the fact that the UN teams kept finding "suprises" and admitted they didn't have full co-operation. Going beyond the whole WMD issue - the Iraqi regime deserves to be replaced. I really wish the UN had decided to stand up for once...12 years of putting up with this guy was too much.

From the moralistic point of view - well, even though I wish the UN had acted differently, I still have a problem with the U.S. going in without their backing. In my mind it sets a bad precedent for future engagements, and undermines the whole idea of the UN, of which I am stll I supporter - the antics of countries like France notwithstanding.

I just hope this ends soon, and that it doesn't explode into a wider conflict.
 

Seabishop

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Hopefully, the episode of South Park where Saddam is Satan's lover in hell will soon be reality.
 

Tranplanner

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Seabishop said:
Hopefully, the episode of South Park where Saddam is Satan's lover in hell will soon be reality.
That one was on the other night (great timing). I hadn't seen it before - it was freakin' hilarious!
 

Tranplanner

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El Guapo said:


Well, many of them
are French Canadians...

THIS IS NOT MY POST! WHO EDITED MY POST?
I was wondering what happened to your post Chris. Wasn't me, that's for sure.
 

Chet

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Tranplanner said:


I was wondering what happened to your post Chris. Wasn't me, that's for sure.
EEP! It was me for sure. I bet I hit edit instead of quote! Didnt mean to!
 

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The Irish one said:
isnt' there a certified cyburbian moderator certificate? and how often do you recertify?
Chet needs the remedial course I think. ;)
 

NHPlanner

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bturk said:


No he needs to go back on his meds.
Only if it doesn't impact your ability to throw a few back in Denver! ;)
 

Chet

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NHPlanner said:

Only if it doesn't impact your ability to throw a few back in Denver! ;)
Xanax and Skyy on the rocks is my favorite. Thanks for asking!
 

el Guapo

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Brain,
Because you fessed up and disarmed I will just send in Hans Blix to inspect your computer. I won't tell Donald Rumsfeld about your mistake! ;)
 

Habanero

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El Guapo said:
Brain,
Because you fessed up and disarmed I will just send in Hans Blix to inspect your computer. I won't tell Donald Rumsfeld about your mistake! ;)
Did you mean to spell it 'brain"? hee-
 

Chet

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El Guapo said:
Brain,
Because you fessed up and disarmed I will just send in Hans Blix to inspect your computer. I won't tell Donald Rumsfeld about your mistake! ;)
We unilaterally deny the presence off Porn of Imense Proportions on our computers and denounce the capitalist war mongers.
 

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Back on topic:

A bit of a scare for Mary Poppins and I when news of the grenade attack in Kuwait was announced....the camp was from Ft. Campell, KY where my brother-in-law was sent over from. Fortunately this morning we found out it was NOT the camp he is in.
 

SGB

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Tim -

Thank [insert diety/philosopher/oracle of choice here] that your BIL remains safe.

My thoughts and prayers are with you and yours in this difficult time.

NHPlanner said:
Back on topic:

A bit of a scare for Mary Poppins and I when news of the grenade attack in Kuwait was announced....the camp was from Ft. Campell, KY where my brother-in-law was sent over from. Fortunately this morning we found out it was NOT the camp he is in.
 

nerudite

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Okay... this isn't official news, but a personal experience.

Living up here for the past year and a half has been eye-opening to say the least... especially given the various friendly fire incidents and Bush bashing by politicians.

I went to an Oilers game last night against Nashville... I was slightly nervous before the National Anthem because of all the booing that went down in Montreal last week. I knew I wouldn't handle it well if the booing broke out... there are a few things I take very seriously, and the flag and anthem are two of them. But I must say that the applause during the Star Spangled Banner was almost deafening, and it felt really good to be in such a positive environment when I'm so far from home. So thank you Canadian citizens!




(And good job Don Cherry ... as always!)
 

Habanero

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Tim, so glad to hear your BIL is safe. I always wonder how journalists can show tapes of people, when the tapes may be the first time their families know what happened. One of the injured officers was talking after the incident and I wondered if his wife or family got word before the reporters stalked him.

I also realized I live near the largest nuclear plant in the nation. I really hope no one from the inside decides to blow that place up-
 

Cardinal

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We are not alone! In addition to British and Australian ground forces, the Polish have had ground forces operating in Iraq. Thanks, Poland. :)
 

Chet

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Michael Stumpf said:
We are not alone! In addition to British and Australian ground forces, the Polish have had ground forces operating in Iraq. Thanks, Poland. :)
Any takers? C'mon... you know you want to.
 

Cardinal

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Hey! Come on now, they are true allies, let's not stoop to our usual level. ;) They do have guts. Remember, the Poles, with little else at their disposal, sent cavalry on horseback against Hitler's panzers at the start of WWII. Too bad the French didn't show the same courage.
 

Habanero

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Seabishop said:
Looking to find some hip protest music from today's hottest artists? This article tells you who's protesting what.

Who would've thought the Beastie Boys wouldn't support an armed invasion of Iraq?

http://www.projo.com/music/content/projo_20030325_iraqmusic.c4af5.html
Mide D can suck a fish, he fell off his bike and they cancelled the Rage Against the Machine and Beastie Boys tour- then Rage forever broke up. Not that I'm bitter. :)

Over the barking dogs and shower I thought I heard if our tropps get within a 60 mile radius the Republican Army is going to use chemical weapons.. please tell em I heard that wrong, I cannot find any info and they didn't re-state it this morning.
 

Chet

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From FOX News

"Russian officials have said they also want some compensation for companies -- presumably Russian -- that might be hurt because of contracts that could be disrupted by the war. They did not indicate whether that included companies that allegedly have sold GPS jammers and other equipment to Iraq in violation of U.N. sanctions."

Aside from whether or not Russia sold the GPS units to Iraq, IMHO they lost their ability to demand anything in terms of compensation when they chose not to participate in a second UN Resolution. Thats the price of war. You lose, buddy!
 
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