Jen said:Welcome to Cyburbia wingo
I'm thinking of cheapo townhomes and manufactured housing parks...j
I think that the outlook for the production of affordable and sub-affordable housing is indeed good. However, the long term prospects are not going to be good unless a mix of incomes is encouraged. I am especially thinking of the various low incoming projects that replace poorly designed structures with better designs but still warehouse the poor in segregated developments. Although low income and affordable are somewhat different it still hits my point of economically segragated housing does poorly regardless of design.
Especially on the low end, I think that you should not plan on low income residents being more than 10% of the residential population. Above that concentration and you get excessive dysfunction and the same end result as we have now.
I know that this is somewhat of a shift of the original topic.
Michael Stumpf said:Runner, you are going to have an awfully hard time keeping low income density to 10% without clustering, considering that they (poor people) make up a larger share of the overall population.
Runner said:Although low income and affordable are somewhat different it still hits my point of economically segragated housing does poorly regardless of design.
bturk said:IMHO, "Somewhat different" is a mis-statement, Runner. I picked up on the phrase and the rest of your post melded into the background.
bturk said:Anyways, my real point was also semantics... We have to be carefull in our discussions and presentations to make a distinction or else we'll lose any chance of addressing affordability in our next Comprehensive Plan.
Good point. Maybe we need to make a concious effort not to use the buz words "affordable housing" at all. Glomer mentioned using the term "work force housing" in an earlier thread:
I'm not sure if this is better but I guess we may agree that a term with less baggage would be useful.
Michael Stumpf said:It really could be called middle class housing. Maybe the best approach is to discuss it in terms of household income.