Could Trump give them a pardon? I have a feeling that if there’s not a 25th Amendment solution soon, Trump will be giving out a lot of get-out-of-jail-free cards.As the news shows photos of these terrorists with fully exposed faces, my son and I keep pointing and saying 'going to prison' on repeat.
... but I hope even those who love President Trump realize that yesterday was caused by rhetoric that doesn't in any way move our country forward. By rhetoric that has for years incited anger and fear and hatred in people.
Definitely a failure of law enforcement imagination...at best.Here's the thing: every day, the FBI successfully thwarts possible terrorist attacks in this country that we never hear about so how did they NOT know the coordination of this event yesterday - the making and placement of pipe bombs, etc - it was all orchestrated and planned in advance
I know that the DC mayor purposefully did not want a militaristic showing yesterday which backfired as the DC police were technically in charge up to the steps of the capitol, but the FBI is separate and they have declared white supremacists as domestic terrorists - so did they seriously not know?
so beyond the Capitol Police backing away from the crowd and letting it all happen, there's another angle here I think
OK... I am starting to get sick and tired of the lack of people willing to acknowledge right from wrong. It goes way beyond politics, and even American Society and into the essence of human nature.
Yeah. I think at this point, if they're still standing by the president, they're not going to be convinced by anything. It's really painful to see so many people I care about be willingly blinded at this point.Yesterday early in the day I posted this in the Random Thread:
Little did I know how true those words would ring out.
I am super disappointed in several conservative friends that continue to support the President's rhetoric and are posting excuses regarding the riots and how that it is a left wing conspiracy. I am not going to unfriend them because I am having too much fun poking holes in their theories.
I don't think that the election was perfect and that there was some shady things that happened... but that was on both sides. But that has occurred in ever major election since the foundation of our country. I also firmly believe that our founding fathers would be furious to see what transpired yesterday and how their work and words have been manipulated and basterized to support the actions of the extremists on both sides.
Finally, I agree that there was a serious breakdown in law enforcement yesterday and I question how much of that was influenced by the President.
Below is a link to a map from the US Capitol Police site. The steps face east, and the DC police jurisdiction ends at First Street NE. You can't drive up to the steps unless you're official.... the DC police were technically in charge up to the steps of the capitol ...
Actually, yes. Past Presidents have issued pardons for acts prior to the initiation of any legal proceedings. The most notable example was when Ford pardoned Nixon. This issue of pardoning prior to a conviction has not been fully challenged/litigated, though.
Carter pardoned draft dodgers. It was over 100,000 people at once, if I remember correctly.Actually, yes. Past Presidents have issued pardons for acts prior to the initiation of any legal proceedings. The most notable example was when Ford pardoned Nixon. This issue of pardoning prior to a conviction has not been fully challenged/litigated, though.
President Carter gave a general pardon to Vietnam draft dodgers as a whole on January 21, 1977, his first day in office.Well in order to be pardoned you have to be convicted first. IF that happens it wouldn't be until Biden is sworn in.
Acting pursuant to the grant of authority in Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution of the United States, I, Jimmy Carter, President of the United States, do hereby grant a full, complete and unconditional pardon to: (1) all persons who may have committed any offense between August 4, 1964 and March 28, 1973 in violation of the Military Selective Service Act or any rule or regulation promulgated thereunder; and (2) all persons heretofore convicted, irrespective of the date of conviction, of any offense committed between August 4, 1964 and March 28, 1973 in violation of the Military Selective Service Act, or any rule or regulation promulgated thereunder, restoring to them full political, civil and other rights..
Same thing here. As if George Soros, Bill Gates, Hillary Clinton, Greta Thunberg, the Rothchilds, the ghost of Oogo Chavez, AOC, BLM, WHO, and of course, the Jeeeeeeeeeews, put out a casting call for 50,000 ZZ Top impersonators and RAM 3500 owners to protest the Electoral College vote tally, all expenses paid, camo and Confederate flags provided.I am super disappointed in several conservative friends that continue to support the President's rhetoric and are posting excuses regarding the riots and how that it is a left wing conspiracy. I am not going to unfriend them because I am having too much fun poking holes in their theories.