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The new Segway thread

Tranplanner

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I was wondering how long it would take Budgie to respond to that pic...seven minutes? You're slipping there buddy ;)

Do we know for sure who that is falling of the SHT? Looks pretty blurry to me - any link to a news article?

EDIT: found one!
 

Cardinal

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Thank (god, gods, lack of god - insert your choice) Gerald Ford is no longer president.
 

SGB

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Leave it to the Drudge Report to publish a sequence of photos on GWB's Segway snafu:

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Seabishop

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This was a staged event by a Republican president meant to make the average American think that no alternative transportation can replace the good old fashioned automobile. ;)
 

Budgie

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Critique of Technique

George, put down the tennis raquet, turn on the machine, level the platform, put it into balance mode, step on. Didn't you watch the training video. Perhaps Segway will put these photos in the next training video to illustrate exactly what not to do. Oh yeah, George, don't press the red button on your desk. You know, the one that's labeled "launch".
 

Cardinal

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Re: Critique of Technique

Budgie said:
Oh yeah, George, don't press the red button on your desk. You know, the one that's labeled "launch".

I need one of those on my desk, except it should read "lunch."
 

el Guapo

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I'd think the Segwaynistas would be happy that a Republican president was at least trying out your hallowed toy. :) But nothing seems to make some people happy.

Budgie, the man has the power to set NATIONAL policy. Imagine if instead of chiding him because his politics are different than yours, what if you shortsighted Segway promoters took this as an opportunity to congratulate him for investigating your new toy? What if you said something nice? What if he enjoyed his ride so much that he asked his staff to do some investigation into its potential? But no, most liberals like Bush-bashing better than livable communities.

I wonder if maybe we all would look stupid at times if our entire lives were on film? So when someone offers W a hit of new urbanism or "smart growth" as you kids are calling it, should he refrain in case someone is lurking in the bushes with a telephoto lens?

Aside-
It occurred to me the other day as I was riding my bicycle that the Segway and the bike do just about the same things for the rider. The Segway is just easier. so why do we want to replace the SUV with Segways? The SUV is just an easier Segway.
 

Cardinal

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EG said:
But no, most liberals like Bush-bashing better than livable communities.

It's not just the liberals. Prudence is conservative and his bush-bashing exploits are the stuff of legends.

It is always fun to ridicule the president. At least a couple of conservatives even did it to Clinton when he was in office. Looking at the event objectively, it is a bit humerous, maybe the kind of thing you'd expect to see Leslie Nielson doing in the next "Airplane" or "Police Squad" movie.
 

Chet

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Michael Stumpf said:
It's not just the liberals. Prudence is conservative and his bush-bashing exploits are the stuff of legends.

Oh good lord I can't belive you wrote that.
ROTFLMAO
 

Budgie

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Alternative

The "Big Dig" in Boston cost $16 billion dollars, which could have purchased 3.2 million Segways, or 12.8 million bicycles.
 

Cardinal

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Re: Alternative

Budgie said:
The "Big Dig" in Boston cost $16 billion dollars, which could have purchased 3.2 million Segways, or 12.8 million bicycles.

Since Trek Bicycles are made in my town, I would vote for the bicycles. Still, that would not have opened up the former road space in Boston that will now be redeveloped as a result of the "Big Dig."

OT - I recieved my invitation to the ITE conference today. By that time Greenescapist will also be in Wisconsin, and I think we might get a few of the Chicago-area people to come up for the Upper Midwest CyburbiaFest.
 

Budgie

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Either way, the "Big Dig" will induce additional congestion and the service levels will once again drop.

I got my letter from the Wisconsin ITE today, so I will be making travel arrangements shortly. How about the local Cyburbian's map out a pub crawl or some such drinking expidition.
 

Cardinal

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Budgie said:
How about the local Cyburbian's map out a pub crawl or some such drinking expidition.

I vote for treating Budgie to the Madison experience - The Union Terrace, Great Dane Brewery, State Street, etc.
 

Chet

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If you don't mind the hour to Madison, Mike has a good idea. If you flew in and out of there and stayed there it wouldn't be tough, but I'd hate to take you on the tour then drive back...
 

Greenescapist

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C'mon, a Madison get together would be fun. I can help plan, too, although Mike Stumpf probably knows the best places to go.
 

Greenescapist

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Segway

Back to the Segway for a minute - last week I spent the night up at a college roomate's parents' house in Bedford, NH - right down the road from Dean Kamen's house. We got to talking about the Segway and the consensus from the local NH businesspeopleI was with - was that the Segway has been a complete failure and that Kamen, himself, knows this. No one is really buying them and the costs of production are not leveling out. Everyone seemed to think the Segway will be laughed at in a few years - but, who knows?
 

Cardinal

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I'm not ready to rule them out. While I don't see them re-shaping the way we build cities, they will have a niche. It is somewhat similar to the role played by mopeds, but in the long run perhaps appealing to more people who would not get on a moped.
 

Budgie

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Ticket to Ride Event in KC !!!

I just got the below e-mail from Segway. I'll be gliding around outside the event to just see what's going on and chat with the Segway employees.

Dan, EG, seannelson, others. Drop by.

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Segway is excited to offer you an opportunity to experience the Segway™ Human Transporter (HT) in Kansas City, MO on the following date:

Kansas City Marriott Downtown - Friday, July 18, 2003 between 4pm and 7pm

Kansas City interest drives the Ticket to Ride event
You're invited to come experience the Segway HT prior to your purchase. Please reply to rsvp3@segway.com to verify that you would like to attend. You may arrive anytime from 4pm to 7pm. Product demonstrations include a brief guided ride (16 years and older). The event is being held at:

Kansas City Marriott Downtown
200 West 12th Street
Kansas City, MO 64105
816-855-4465
http://www.marriott.com/epp/default.asp?MarshaCode=MCIDT
Directions from airport:
Kansas City - MCI (22 mi S) Take I-29 South to Broadway/Highway 169 Exit. Take Broadway to 12th Street. Turn left on 12th Street, go 1 block east and hotel is on left.

Be one of the first on your block to own this revolutionary product. The Segway Human Transporter (HT) i167 is available for purchase directly from Segway by calling us toll-free at 1-866-4SEGWAY or online through Amazon.com for delivery within 10 days. We are excited to offer this opportunity and look forward to hearing from you.

Thank you,
The Segway Team
 

Budgie

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Wisconsin Pub Glide

Michael Stumpf said:
I vote for treating Budgie to the Madison experience - The Union Terrace, Great Dane Brewery, State Street, etc.

Wisconsin Planner Doods:

I'm staying in Pewaukee the evening of October 7th. The ITE conference is at the Country Inn in Waukesha. I'm game for Tuesday night. I'll buy the first round (within reason).
 

Chet

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Re: Wisconsin Pub Glide

Budgie said:
Wisconsin Planner Doods:

I'm staying in Pewaukee the evening of October 7th. The ITE conference is at the Country Inn in Waukesha. I'm game for Tuesday night. I'll buy the first round (within reason).

That's a great location - just to the west of there at the Hwy 83 interchange (also my hometown) there are two great brew pubs.
 

SGB

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Re: it wa bound to happen

Chet said:
The Smoking Gun is reporting the first Grand Theft Segway

Actually, this SG article was reporting the second theft. From the article:

This is the second reported Segway theft to come to TSG's attention this year. In April, Robert Ballantine's scooter was stolen from outside the 62-year-old's home in Kent, Washington. The perp in that scooter swiping remains at large.
 

Chet

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I stand corrected. :)

But cut me some slack - the first words of the article are "In a law enforcement first...."
 

Budgie

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Big News

The latest word on the street is that Brookstone stores (275) nationwide will be carrying Segways before December and some locations will provide demonstrations. Segways have not been available to the general public since the middle of March 2003. So we're little over 6 months into this experiment.

Like I've said all along, give it 5 to 10 years and we may be looking at major changes in the way we allocation Right-of-Way space. Call me crazy, but I think planners need to open their eyes and consider the possibilities. Some developers have referred to Segway's as "disruptive technology". Good !!!! Anything to break the business as usual status quo of autodependent development patterns. Disrupt away.

Is Chet the only other Cyburbian to take it for a brief spin?
 

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I would like to see "small vehicle lanes" where one freeway lane can be divided into two (or two can be divided into three) for two or three wheel motorcycles. It seems pretty wasteful for every lane on a freeway to be Hummer width. I suppose that would be a good way to get a Segway lane on city streets.

Of course, I'm waiting for Honda to put out a 150 horsepower Segway.
 

JNA

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Check out today's comic strip
Mother Goose & Grimm

A Postman on a Segway!

Is this a sign of acceptance or recognition?
 
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ludes98

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New p-series

I have not even seen one in the Phoneix area yet. I saw that they have a newer more "portable" friendly version = lighter and smaller. Seems to maintain close to same speed and range, but not as many surfaces can be traveled. So I guess paved only. I would love to try one out. Though not green, the gas scooters that have become popular witht he kids, are more portable, less safe, and only 1/10 the cost. Hope they catch on as the price comes down.
 

Cardinal

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I just went to update my auto insurance and saw that the company is now offering Segway insurance.
 

ludes98

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Hmmm place here in Scottsdale rents! There is a huge big box farm out that way, maybe I'll rent one and go shopping at the boxes.
 

Cullen

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(from dictionary.com)
se·gue ( P ) Pronunciation Key (sgw, sgw)
intr.v. se·gued, se·gue·ing, se·gues
Music. To make a transition directly from one section or theme to another.
To move smoothly and unhesitatingly from one state, condition, situation, or element to another: “Daylight segued into dusk” (Susan Dworski).


It seems that even the designer knows that the segway is just a beginning. Thats why its called the segway, as in segue, from one mode of transportation to another. When it comes down to it, there doesn't seem to be too much added benefits to this device. I have never ridden on one so I cannot truly be sure of this fact, but that is just the way it seems. This is not to belittle the genre of personal human transport devices, I think they are really cool, and a great direction for future transportation. This product is just a beginning. It really is a pretty cool device, but so far, a bike seems more efficient. I think it would still rock to ride one or to have one. When I first heard of the segway, I thought that it was not powered at all, as in it never needed to be charged. Now that would have been something. Maybe I have just been a little disappointed by that fact, but really how would they do that anyway? it would have to be like a perpetual motion machine.

anyway, check out this cool site human powered vehicle.
http://www.springwalker.com/

I found a list of all sorts of alternative vehicles, but I have not been able to find this site today. I have however, found another interesting site with all sorts of resources about human powered vehicles and other alternative forms of transport:
http://www.humboldt1.com/~mhp/mylinks.htm

this is a mildly funny site too:
http://web.0sil8.com/episodes/megway/home.html
 

Budgie

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Cullen said:
It seems that even the designer knows that the segway is just a beginning. Thats why its called the segway, as in segue, from one mode of transportation to another. When it comes down to it, there doesn't seem to be too much added benefits to this device. I have never ridden on one so I cannot truly be sure of this fact, but that is just the way it seems.

Cullen:

I like honest and thoughtful skepticism, which you expressed with a qualifying phrase. I've owned a Segway for 8 months and have logged an estimated 1200 miles and given probably 600 demonstration rides. I currently live in a historic city of 6,800 people, which has a maximum distance across of 2.5 miles. I can go back and forth across the city at least twice in all directions before running the battery down.

I can safely say that the control one has on a Segway far exceeds anything you can get on any other personal transportation device. This is something you can only experience with time. Question: If you want to get somewhere 5 miles away without being a sweat ball when you get there how do you travel. Answer: By car. Here's some quick math.

Segway

8 cents of electricity for 10 miles (conservative estimate) = 0.8 cents per mile.

Car

$1.50 per gallon for 25 miles (in-town) = 6 cents per mile.

Segway

I-167 model weighs 83 lbs.

Car

Weights a hell of a lot

Segway

Can be used in-door and out-door (another segue aspect, a smooth seamless transition from in-door to out-door travel)

Car

Park it (takes up alot of value land area for temporary car storage, what a waste of land, especially in downtown areas)

Segway

Take it with you on trains, planes, boats, cars, etc. (I've done all of these except the boat thing).

Car

Only multi-modal is used on ferries

I don't want to go on. All of the comparisons are all over. A $4,500 Segway purchase coupled with a wise choice in housing/job distance will save me thousands of dollars a year. After the new year, when I move to my new residence, my car will only be used for out-of-town travel. I'll save on gas, insurance, maintenance, etc... I'm even considering getting rid of my car and renting a wreck on occassions when I need to leave town. I'm sure I can find someone who will let me take their second car for a day trip for twenty bucks.

It won't work for everyone and the technology used in the Segway will find more applications, some of which we are already seeing. How long did it take for the horseless carriage to become widespread?

I wish more people would bike, but let's face it. Bicycles are recreational vehicles for the most part. While gliding on a Segway is extremely fun, it is not a recreational vehicle. Lot's of people say, "Oh that's a neat toy." My reply, "No, it's a transporation device." Then I explain it's capabilities, limitations and how I use it and people begin to understand and get excited about it. I haven't met anyone yet who simply said, "I don't want one."

I can talk about this topic for hours. Everyone knows my opinion and I think I'm qualified due to glide time to know what the hell i'm talking about. Just wear gloves in the winter, the wind chill at 12.5 mph on exposed hands can become a little uncomfortable, but I'm not the kind of wuss who has to heat up the car before getting in.

Shall I continue .... blah, blah, blah, blah .
 

ludes98

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There is a Segway store in the mall here. Took the test drive over the busy holiday shopping weekend, as a break. Very cool. I could make my commute on it. Would have taken one home if the money was in the account.
 

ludes98

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Not all officers can use it because of the 250lb weight limit? Hmm maybe those officers need the excercise anyways, but i guess officers do have to have 20lbs of gear on too.
 

Budgie

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ludes98 said:
Not all officers can use it because of the 250lb weight limit?

The 250 lb thing is a guideline to minimize wear on the motors. Hell, Shaq rides one.
 
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