ChevyChaseDC said:I just found out I've been admitted to Carolina's MRP program. Anybody know current/former students or faculty that I can get in touch with? Send a private message if you do.
Unless you get a nice aid package from Penn go to UNC. Both have excellent reputatons, but UNC in recent years has been the stronger planning program plus its cheaper. If you have to borrow big $$ to go to UPenn it's just not worth it.ChevyChaseDC said:I've since been admitted to Penn. I've heard good things about both Penn and UNC and I plan on visiting both over the next few weeks...Anyone care to comment on these two?
Yes... see what I wrote under this thread: http://www.cyburbia.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10860Dharmster said:Unless you get a nice aid package from Penn go to UNC. Both have excellent reputatons, but UNC in recent years has been the stronger planning program plus its cheaper. If you have to borrow big $$ to go to UPenn it's just not worth it.
Yup, it doesn't make sense to borrow big $$ for an urban planning degree. We simply don't get paid enough as a profession to justify that kind of borrowing.Mud Princess said:Yes... see what I wrote under this thread: http://www.cyburbia.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10860
I know your pain -- I've tried to find 1 "transportation" planning program in the U.S. that would not perceive pedestrians and bicyclists as obstacles in the smooth flow of automobiles, but without much luck.annie said:Let me add two more schools into the mix...I'm choosing between UNC, Cornell and UW (Washington).
I'm currently a dissatisfied transportation planner (well, actually not anymore because I quit on Friday!) but my main interest lies in planning/designing/promoting/actually building environments that are more conducive to biking and walking than to driving. I also have an undergrad degree in architecture and get bored sitting in an office writing all day. Thus, the attraction to urban design.
Using the above and rambling paragraph, any suggestions? I literally change my mind every 6 hours. any help would be GREAT.
Luckily, I think I'm enough of a dork that I could integrate bicycling into anything. I did my undergrad senior thesis on bicycle planning, and was literally teaching my critics about it! I showed examples of BikeStations and I'm wondering if it's a coincidence that one year later, the junior studio was to design a bike station.bocian said:I know your pain -- I've tried to find 1 "transportation" planning program in the U.S. that would not perceive pedestrians and bicyclists as obstacles in the smooth flow of automobiles, but without much luck.
Out of the 3 schools you mentioned, for your purposes, I'd choose NC Chapel Hill; they actually have at least 1 course dealing with pedestrian/bicycling planning (I think it's a seminar that's NOT offered frequently though), and the city itself has a lot of bicyclists, bike racks on buses, positive attitude towards bikes, etc. However, the endless sprawl evident all over NC and the state's almost complete dependance on automobiles would definitely deter me from working there in the future... I heard Cornell is OK for studying planning theory, but not really for pragmatic reasons. Geographic isolation of Ithaca doesn't help either (although it is a nice small community, one of the only ones with close to 50,000 residents that is not connected to the American system of Highway "Defense" network... Bloomington, IN, is the other city I can think of...).
UW might be OK -- I think Seattle would be a great place to reside, BUT I have not found anything on the school's website mentioning bicycle/pedestrian- oriented planning. Still, the opportunities for involvement in the area would be great.
You could always try to live in WA state for 1 year - not a bad place to live at all - to get in-state tuition. Conversely, if you get some assistantship, your out-of-state tuition will be waived. I might try to do that myself if I go to Portland. Good luck - sounds like you're another obsessed bicyclist - there are quite a few of us here on CybForums -- including myself, riding my bike every single day of the year, rain, shine, snow, whatever...annie said:I'll be learning urban planning in an URBAN environment! Now, if only they had decent funding...
Take the money are run to UNC! NC State has an architecture program and you can register for courses at NCS while enrolled at UNC.annie said:forget what I said about Washington above, UNC gave me a FANTASTIC aid package, and I'll be going there! If I want to do design later, I can always get a 1-year certificate.