JNA said:OK mentioning sandwich joints, which do do you like better
Schlotzsky's vs. Quizno's vs. _________?
Dan said:Despite the percieved evil of chains, I'm convinced that their presence can be used as an indicator of a region's economic health. Consider Buffalo, New York. Upscale retail and restaurant chains that are well-established throughout the United States (and often Canada) don't have a presence in Buffalo, and probably never will...My major point, though, is that it's telling -- very telling -- that so few upscale retail and restaurant chains have considered a location in Buffalo.
UpstateNYRox said:Updating whats been going with chains in the Buffalo area since this long running thread has started:
-Ruth's Chris Steakhouse, Cheesecake Factory and Abuelo's Mexican Food Embassy are planned as part of the Walden Galleria expansion
jsk1983 said:I tend not to put much faith in these Galleria exspansions. It seems like they're always announcing some massive exspansion but it never goes through. We'll just have to wait and see.
steel said:The Galleria Mall has been expanded 5 times. Most recently when the huge Galyans (now Dicks) was added. I think it has more than 1.5 M sf of space. It will be interesting to see what happens though with the May stores. Both Lord and Taylor and Kaufmans are talked about as being converted to Macy's. I am sure they will not have 2 macy's in the mall.
steel said:That is very good news. Bloomingdales is a very upscale name. Macy's not bad either.
Gee I wonder why the can't figure out what policy would reverse this decline? Cough* Maybe get rid of the high Taxes, High cost of doing business, incompentent local, state politicians, etc. *Cough."The jobs are moving to where the people are going . . . it's not clear what policy can do to address this," said Richard Deitz, regional economist at the Buffalo Branch of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.
The twin forces of declining jobs and declining population are reinforcing each other, as growth shifts to other regions of the country, Deitz said in a paper published Tuesday based on U.S. Census figures.
There use to be one on 6th St between Penn Av and the 6th St Bridge, where a pizza place/bar is now (if it didn't go under). I remember when we were cleaning out the joint there was jars of olives and peppers with the Schlotzsky's label on it.biscuit said:Schlotzsky's large original sandwich with hot sauce and balsamic vinegar. Yum! We have Quizno's all over the place here, but alas, there is no Schlotzsky's Deli.
Dan said:Despite the percieved evil of chains, I'm convinced that their presence can be used as an indicator of a region's economic health. Consider Buffalo, New York. Upscale retail and restaurant chains that are well-established throughout the United States (and often Canada) don't have a presence in Buffalo, and probably never will. Buffalo may be the largest city in the country without the following:
* Neiman Marcus
* Restoration Hardware
* Whole Foods
* P.F. Chang's
* Macaroni Grill
* Morton's Steakhouse
* Expo Home Center
* Ruth's Chris Steakhouse
* Bed Bath and Beyond
* Z Gallerie
* Urban Outfitters
* Crate & Barrel
* Cheesecake Factory
* All of the theme chains (excepting Hard Rock at the Falls).
* Black Eyed Pea
* Longhorn Steakhouse
* Tony Roma's
* Ruth's Chris
* On The Border
* Panera Bread
* Carrabba's Italian Grill
* Lowe's (Home Depot is the only home improvement big box in Buffalo; there's a local chain of smaller stores called Valu Hardware. It's local, but it's also ... ehhh.)
Plannerbabs said:So, why not locate in a big box in a stable but perhaps not chic area of town? Perhaps that location would spur other trendy locals and chains to re-populate a dying strip mall? Just a thought...and mods, if I've dragged this topic way off, please put it in the right place.
steveanne said:How about this... Rochester, NY and Syracuse NY do not contain a single one of these... They are the largest drug chain in the U.S. Yes, that's Walgreens... Avoiding Rochester and Syracuse like the plague.
Dan, I am assuming your list only includes the city of Buffalo? There are Bed Bath and Beyonds in Amherst and in the Galleria.
NHPlanner said:The chains are slowly making their way here, though, yes, may parts of New England are staunchly opposed to big box development.
We have, or are seeing an influx of, the following:
illinoisplanner said:I think CVS or Eckerd had long dominated those markets. That's why Walgreens has avoided the Northeast area for so long. I used to work for the company, and in their company magazine, I once saw a map and it was sparse in many markets in the Northeast. They'll come around though. And what does Walgreens have to worry when they have locations on every street corner in IL and FL.
steveanne said:Walgreens will be opening close to 10 stores in the Rochester area within the next few years, as well as opening stores in Syracuse, Watertown, Jamestown, and the Finger Lakes region. They are also increasing their numbers in Buffalo and Niagara Falls. That didn't take long! lol