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White Collar Spam: Another reason to hate Corporate America

Super Amputee Cat

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Gee, its bad enough these currupt corporate polesmokers are scamming investors out of millions or bombarding us with inane attention span shrinking commecials...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...&u=/nyt/20031028/ts_nyt/bigcompaniesaddtospam

Sprint, US Bank, SBC...sounds like a whose who list of corporate preditors. Just as bad as porn peddlers in my eye. Worse even, because they are doing it all under the guise of so-called legitimate business.
 
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I seriously doubt that legislation will curb the use of spam. I've been very careful with my work email address but somehow I get all kinds of spam sent to it on a daily basis. I also don't believe those opt-out links work either. You click on it to remove your name from the list, the next day you'll mysteriously get the same email from a slightly different source. It's a no-win situation.
 

SkeLeton

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You really trust that 'remove from list' link? I bet it's more of a 'please tell us if this account is active or not' link...
I just use filters, and any unwanted e-mail gets added to said filter.
 

Rumpy Tunanator

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SkeLeton said:
You really trust that 'remove from list' link? I bet it's more of a 'please tell us if this account is active or not' link...
I just use filters, and any unwanted e-mail gets added to said filter.
As soon as you hit the Remove From List, the add your name to some more lists. I'd like to choke the people who send me this crap.
 

Jeff

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Planderella said:
I also don't believe those opt-out links work either. You click on it to remove your name from the list, the next day you'll mysteriously get the same email from a slightly different source. It's a no-win situation.

NOOOOOOO !!!!!!

DON'T EVER CLICK THOSE !!!

That just throws your addy into the "I want more porn" database. The best spam filters I have found is with Yahoo! Nobody else even comes close. And if something does get through, you can just mark it as spam and they actually review how it got through and make improvements to their filters.

Also, turn of HTML in you email, this allows spammers to know if you opened it or not.
 

SGB

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Planderella said:
I seriously doubt that legislation will curb the use of spam. I've been very careful with my work email address but somehow I get all kinds of spam sent to it on a daily basis.
I think those recent viruses gathered email addresses from infected computers. I've gotten more than my share of spam at work since the viruses, and this email address isn't posted publicly anywhere.
 

jordanb

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Mike D. said:
That just throws your addy into the "I want more porn" database. The best spam filters I have found is with Yahoo! Nobody else even comes close. And if something does get through, you can just mark it as spam and they actually review how it got through and make improvements to their filters.
I run bogofilter on my server. It "learns" what is spam and what isn't, so when spammers change their tatics, bogofilter learns what the new types of spam look like. It's very effective. I don't know if that's what Yahoo uses or not.
 

H

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I don’t want spam, I don’t want commercials and I hate ugly billboards, but advertising is good for the economy so be careful what you wish for….

If people didn’t buy products from spam, companies wouldn’t use it as an advertisement source. So it the consumer’s fault; not the companies. The companies are just doing what they are meant to do… make money.

User filters and stop buying from emails. Then the spam will stop. :)
 

Super Amputee Cat

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H said:
I So it the consumer’s fault; not the companies. The companies are just doing what they are meant to do… make money.

It is the fault of both the consumers and the companies: The companies for aggresively and relentlessly plugging goods through "buy this product or you're dograp" slick marketing campaings and the consumers for buying into the mindset of consumerism-for-it's own-sake and material wealth as the be- all end-all of existence. (Otherwise known as Affluenza)

From 30,000 Gazillion Anytime minute cell phone plans to three ton gas-guzzling, 5-year-old girl decapiting SUVs, if there's a market that will buy it, there's a market that will sell it. The sad thing is, the rest of us have to be exposed to this trashy and degrading, pretentious, material good worshipping subculture where wisdom and restraint are trumped by the worship of image and the pursuit of instant gratification.
 

BKM

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Boy, CAT. I thought my housing rant was over the top, but you beat me once again :)
 

Habanero

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Planderella said:
I seriously doubt that legislation will curb the use of spam. I've been very careful with my work email address but somehow I get all kinds of spam sent to it on a daily basis.
but you do know that's the best way to annoy people you can't stand, right? :)
 

donk

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Habanero said:
but you do know that's the best way to annoy people you can't stand, right? :)
I found this out the hard way. A girl I dated must have signed me up for every get rich quick scheme and medicinal enlargement she could find. It took almost 2 months of vigilance with mail washer to cut the spam level down to a tolerable rate.

The scary thing was that it probably took her as much time to sign me up for these things as we spent together (3 dates).
 

Chet

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Mike D. said:
NOOOOOOO !!!!!!

DON'T EVER CLICK THOSE !!!

That just throws your addy into the "I want more porn" database.
Well for some of us thats not a bad thing.
 

Rem

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Why I Like Cyburbia

donk said:
I found this out the hard way. A girl I dated must have signed me up for every get rich quick scheme and medicinal enlargement she could find. It took almost 2 months of vigilance with mail washer to cut the spam level down to a tolerable rate.

The scary thing was that it probably took her as much time to sign me up for these things as we spent together (3 dates).
Lol donk without your stories of love gone wrong I could not have been ensared by Cyburbia. You seem like such a nice young lad, you must have some weird, bent gene directing you to these "catches".
 

JNL

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Re: Why I Like Cyburbia

So Rem you are basically saying that you enjoy Cyburbia because it allows you to laugh at others' misfortune?? :p

Methinks you should choose yourself a suitably evil Halloween avatar!
 

Jessie-J

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The sad thing is, the rest of us have to be exposed to this trashy and degrading, pretentious, material good worshipping subculture where wisdom and restraint are trumped by the worship of image and the pursuit of instant gratification. [/B]


You are my hero.
 

donk

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JNL said:
So Rem you are basically saying that you enjoy Cyburbia because it allows you to laugh at others' misfortune?? :p
Don't worry, I can laugh at myself, but it is more fun to laugh at others.

Its not me, its my friends who lead me into these situations.

These are the G rated stories too. ;)
 

Jeff

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Habanero said:
but you do know that's the best way to annoy people you can't stand, right? :)
You and I think sooooooooo alike its scary.

I love doing my enemies a favor and "Unsubscribing" them from spam lists.
 

Habanero

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Mike D. said:
You and I think sooooooooo alike its scary.

I love doing my enemies a favor and "Unsubscribing" them from spam lists.
well you know what they say about great minds! :)
 

Wannaplan?

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Super Amputee Cat said:
Sprint, US Bank, SBC...sounds like a whose who list of corporate preditors. Just as bad as porn peddlers in my eye. Worse even, because they are doing it all under the guise of so-called legitimate business.
Ever hear of Buy Nothing Day? This year it is Friday, November 28. Feel free to participate and screw the corporate shitheads that we all love to hate.

http://www.adbusters.org/campaigns/bnd/

 

Super Amputee Cat

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Re: Re: White Collar Spam: Another reason to hate Corporate America

Wanigas? said:
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Ever hear of Buy Nothing Day? This year it is Friday, November 28. Feel free to participate and screw the corporate shitheads that we all love to hate.

http://www.adbusters.org/campaigns/bnd/

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Nice idea, and I like that bumper sticker, but while these campains have noble intentions, I question whether this will really work, for many will buy twice as much the next day.

Remember those lamebrain "gas-off" days two or three years ago after gasoline prices soared to $1.75 - $2.00/gallon? Fueled by mass e-mailings, whiney motorists - probably dominated by scores of SUV drivers - picked a certain day to not to buy gas.

It failed miserably and did nothing to lessen the price of gas. All they proved was that America has a serious problem with urban sprawl, its dependence on oil and cars. They suceeded only in delaying their purchase for one day, which resulted in longer lines over the next couple of days becuase they had to buy gas sooner or later for guzzlers and their 50-100 mile a day commutes to some pod out in the hinterlands

I thought the whole idea was just stupid refused to buy into the mindset of those "gas-off" days. In fact, I deliberately bought gas on one of those days, just to show my utter contempt for such a truly inane protest. Driving a Ford Escort, the difference between $1.50 and $1.75 a gallon was negligable. Maybe $1.00 more a week. I would gladly pay that and more if it means I don't have to be stuck behing some monstrous Lincoln Navigator on may way to work.

These whiners never, ever, take into account how absulutely cheap $1.75/gallon is if you look at inflation. $1.75 a gallon: That's cheaper than the average price of gas was during all of the 1950s, 1960s, most of the 1970s and early 1980s. Only a few periods during the mid to late 1980s and 1990s was gas actually cheaper, if inflation is taken into account.

(Case in point. The average price of a gallon of gas may have been only 25 cents a gallon in 1950, but inflation puts that up to at least $1.75 - maybe $2.00/gallon). Futhermore, minumum was was only 50 cents in 1950, so it took a minimum wage earner a half and hour to buy a gallon of gas. Today, with the minimum wage at $5.25, it takes about 20 minutes at $1.75/gallon)

When I first started to drive in 1981, gas was almost $3.00/gallon! (adjusted for inflation). Even $2.00 a gallon is not unreasonable, if you look at the price of gas over the past 50 or 60 years.
 

mendelman

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What is this 'consuming' of which you speak?

Time to play the system in a hyper economy like we have here in Metro Chi. and make a ton'o'cash for a decade then shuck the game and buy several hundred wooded, stream/river laced acres in northern Minnesota, Wisconsin, or Michigan, then live a simple life without all the unnecessary dealys of our current socetial lifestyles.

Luddite, I?

Well, one of the few things I do remember from college econ. class was the concept of 'diminshing returns', which is easily applicable to much o' the stuff we fill our lives with.

I sometimes wish for 'intellectual ignorance'.:):):p
 
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Wannaplan?

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Re: Re: Re: White Collar Spam: Another reason to hate Corporate America

Super Amputee Cat said:
Nice idea, and I like that bumper sticker, but while these campains have noble intentions, I question whether this will really work, for many will buy twice as much the next day.
I guess my point is this: Send me spam and I will not buy any crap from you. Call me on the phone to sell me something and I will never give you a dollar again. Takes energy and persistence on my part, but for the most part, I have some brands that I totally avoid. Some corporations think they are smart with flashy ads and friendly phone callers who read from a script, but in the end, I know what they are trying to do, and I do nothing to support their tactics. I guess marketing that is a wee tad bit more subtle works best with me.
 

H

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Re: Re: White Collar Spam: Another reason to hate Corporate America

Wanigas? said:
Ever hear of Buy Nothing Day? This year it is Friday, November 28. Feel free to participate and screw the corporate shitheads that we all love to hate.
I don’t understand? Consumption is good for the economy. Why would anyone want to hurt the economy? (even I who hates wal-mart, home-depot and most big boxes want a good economy). Maybe it should be a “buy form your local mom n pop only day”?

Am I alone on thinking that consumption and spending money are “good”? Can someone please explain why they see this as “bad”.
 

mendelman

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H said:
Am I alone on thinking that consumption and spending money are “good”? Can someone please explain why they see this as “bad”.
You are corret (Oh, great, be a smarty-pants then;-))

Yes, maybe it should be revised to read:

"Buy products that are produced within the local region and buy from retailers that reside in the local region, but think at length whether you really need the product or you simply want it day"

But that might not easily fit on a bumper sticker;-)
 

donk

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Re: Re: Re: Re: White Collar Spam: Another reason to hate Corporate America

mendelman said:
You are corret (Oh, great, be a smarty-pants then;-))


"Buy products that are produced within the local region and buy from retailers that reside in the local region, but think at length whether you really need the product or you simply want it day"

Should'nt you do this every day?

I can go a 2-3 weeks at a time without buying anything but food and gas for my car. It is just a matter of priorities. (Says the guy that just bought action figures off of ebay)

When I buy things where they are made and who makes them are as important or more important than price or labels.
 

Wannaplan?

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Re: Re: Re: White Collar Spam: Another reason to hate Corporate America

H said:
Consumption is good for the economy. Why would anyone want to hurt the economy?
Well, yea. But it is called Buy Nothing Day, not Buy Nothing Year. Do you actually think not buying anything for just one day will actually hurt the economy? I doubt it. In fact, doesn't saving money also help the economy?
 

SkeLeton

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Consumism the support of the capitalist economy? It can survive if people weren't consumists, because you still have to buy products to live comfortable, and still not become consumist.

On the consumist topic: what's more pathetic than buying things just for the heck of buying things? Going to the local big box supermarket and wander through the aisles putting only expensive and exclusive items on the cart and brag about it to any known person that you bump into in the supermarket. They later go with the cart to places without many people and leave the cart abandoned and leave the supermarket. There are people that do it here in Chile. Simply pathetic...
 

H

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Re: Re: Re: Re: White Collar Spam: Another reason to hate Corporate America

Wanigas? said:
But it is called Buy Nothing Day, not Buy Nothing Year. Do you actually think not buying anything for just one day will actually hurt the economy? I doubt it.
If it doesn’t do anything, then why do it? I am not meaning to be an a$$ about this, I just really don’t get the point of the “buy nothing day” campaign. I sincerely want someone who gets it to explain it to me. Maybe I am just too thick headed today. :)

In fact, doesn't saving money also help the economy?
Well, to an extent, but not in excess. And it depends where it is saved, in your bank or in your sock drawl. :-S
 

H

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Re: Re: White Collar Spam: Another reason to hate Corporate America

Wanigas? said:
WTF:I just read the entire site that bashed America for being pigs and such only to see at the end it is Canadian propaganda to ruin our Thanksgiving Day economy! Don’t get brainwashed by the Canucks (sorry Canucks). Spending is good! Support the economy, go out and buy something!

The orgs adress:
1243 West 7th Avenue
Vancouver, BC
V6H 1B7 Canada
 
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