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Veloise

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...you travel to Hawai'i, do the Diamond Head climb...

and take a photo of a silt barrier to share with your friends!

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Maister

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you refer to a driveway as a point of ingress
 

michaelskis

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Your spouse gets angry at you for slowing down at construction sites to confirm that the permits are properly displayed or pointing out sign code violations.
 

JNA

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You take pictures of greenways & unique urban trail signs.
 

Doohickie

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You take pictures of greenways & unique urban trail signs.
I'm no planner, but I have taken pictures of transportation infrastructure while on trips. So I guess I have some natural tendencies.
 

JNA

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I have googled news searched - urban planner, city planner, county planner, planning director
 

terraplnr

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You give a 10 minute local civics lesson to a person who grew up here and went to local schools but has no idea about the governmental structure or politics.

And you enjoy it.
 

Wannaplan?

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...in discussions with family regarding your once robust Rust Belt town and its entrenched economic and social decline, that when you share interesting historical context and other pertinent details such as race riots and corporate malfeasance, the collective riposte in the room is, "That's nice. So, did anyone hear last night what Rachel said about Paul?"
 

Dan

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You find yourself the lone voice against some impractical fantasy project that has long been the darling of the armchair planner community. (cough Buffalo Belt Line cough cough there's few residents in the catchment area of any stations and service would just be redundant with the Main Street Metro Rail line cough cough)

You also find yourself being the annoying "actually ..." guy, when people around you perpetuate tired urban legends about your city's neighborhoods, development history, or built environment, (cough cough idiots who believe GM shut down Buffalo's streetcar system, even though National City lines never owned the IRC streetcar system, and the IRC replaced streetcars with Mack buses from Ford cough cough)
 

terraplnr

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You understand what all of these terms mean, regardless of what they sound like they mean:

- current planning (huh?)
- home occupation (control and possession of hostile homes?)
- carbon farming (growing more carbon?)

And forgetting the "i" in ordinance leads to a completely different subject.
 

kjel

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The first thing you ask affordable housing subsidy applicants what's the current zoning of the site and do you have planning & zoning approvals?
 

RandomPlanner

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When family members casually chat with friends and ANY topic concerning local government or community comes up, they call you to ask your advice on the subject.
 

Veloise

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Reading an article about your fair state's graft and corruption aka the lame duck session ... your first thought is, "why exactly does this little undeveloped township "need" utility grants to "help bring jobs and tax revenues to the community" for "this kind of infrastructure and economic development project that can help strengthen the community and support families and schools” so you immediately look up the census data.

And then post a comment using the phrase "the subject jurisdiction"
 
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Maister

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When well intentioned friends and relatives come to you with their concerns about: disputing property tax assessments, fire and police response times, dates that parks programs are taking place, potholes......
 

Veloise

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someone on the successful citizen-led gerrymandering petition drive FB page posts:

Does anyone know of a tool that would allow me to draw shapes on a Michigan map and show me the population inside that shape? Registered voters would be even better, but I'll take what I can get. Or maybe someone out there knows someone with the skills to create something like this? Thanks!

and you respond with a couple of links to user-friendly Census-based applets that will accomplish exactly the desired task, and respondents come back with

Geographic Information Systems is what you need for this. There may be a tool online but I'm not sure where.
Most counties have GIS online. I think there is a state level version but you may need to check with a librarian to find it. There should be a population layer based on the census or census updates that are done based on statistics.


and you provide a link to a state-level E-Z mapping site with an explanation of why this would be preferred to signing up to learn ARCView

and someone else helpfully adds
MSU GIS grad son says ArcGIS online is the tool you need. ... Also cost — to do this kind of analysis would require buying the software and then knowing how to use it. But that’s the quickest way to get the results wanted.

and that's when you hit the button for turn off notifications for post
 

HomerJ

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When you find yourself shaking your head and muttering under your breath "this town...this. town."
 

Dan

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Make it stop! Make it stop! (Non spectant a deformitate)

... when you're on a vacation to some exotic destination known for its natural beauty, and the voice of your inner Kunstler won't shut the hell up from the sight of every metal building, ugly sign, unlandscaped gravel parking lot with a long continuous curb cut, exposed dumpster, unscreened RTU, light with no cutoff fixture, freestanding chain business with out-of-place trade dress architecture, front yard parking lots in a downtown/CBD, house with cars littering the front yard, snout house subdivision ...

Why can't we have nice things? (Invidia autem Denverius)

... when you're driving through another city or town, and the voice of your inner American Planning Association Planners Advisory Service won't shut the hell up from the sight of every great planning practice -- things that are the norm there, but the exception in the community where you work, no matter how hard you might try to change the status quo.
 

Veloise

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Make it stop! Make it stop! (Non spectant a deformitate)

... when you're on a vacation to some exotic destination known for its natural beauty, and the voice of your inner Kunstler won't shut the hell up from the sight of every metal building, ugly sign, unlandscaped gravel parking lot with a long continuous curb cut, exposed dumpster, unscreened RTU, light with no cutoff fixture, freestanding chain business with out-of-place trade dress architecture, front yard parking lots in a downtown/CBD, house with cars littering the front yard, snout house subdivision ...
A relative worked in advertising for a company that made industrial-strength meters (the kind you see in the service alley behind a large commercial building). He came back from a scenic skiing vacation with many photos of the product in situ.
 
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Dan

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…When it is noted that one writes using the passive voice as a matter of habit.
After writing a plain English FBC that's almost entirely in active voice (!), I've become acutely aware of when I'm writing in the passive voice. I feel like coding for active voice rewired my brain a bit. I also cringe a bit when I look at the plain English UDC I wrote during my short exile in Texas, because some provisions are in passive voice.
 

Veloise

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Big Owl:

In the dress code, hats are not a permitted by right; so you pay a dollar to get a variance/exception to the dress code. It's a fund raiser for some project. It's a easy way to raise a couple hundred dollars.
 

Veloise

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Our Old House on FB shows up a pic with a sideyard setback issue. (Chiropractic visitors are driving over the residential lawn, OP seeks relief and suggestions.)
Within minutes you've stalked up the subject property, pulled a Streetview, accessed the county land records with theoretical lot lines, and provided guidance to the OP (who might not be the property owner). Oh, and explained the different meanings of "right of way" to fellow old housers.


fostoria parking issue 2.png

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I guess I'm slipping, haven't looked up the ordinance and interpreted it for her.
 
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Veloise

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...you will not do an event without a permit

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You see a horror story for a similar event that failed to obtain a permit and ROFL



"... the city has refused to permit the spot within a 5 mile radius of the downtown convention center..."
 
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Dan

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Mother-in-law: "Why is housing so expensive here?

Me: monologues for 20 minutes about large lot zoning, lack of production and speculative homebuilders, NIMBYs, preferences for "rustic" housing among local residents, wealthy college students, and a dozen other factors that make a "convergence of suck".
 

Veloise

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Local business owner is sooo sad over deaths of LEO and local soldiers that he decided to "honor" them with a marquee banner, flags flags flags. No permits pulled.
News article




This is discussed in a local forum with some playing the 'Merica! card.


Former BZA member provides facts.

 

Veloise

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You share a wacky news article on FB ...

Farm sued by township, neighbor who claim it is a ‘public nuisance’

... and a friend chimes in with "busybodies... stirring up crap that's none of their business ...
okay so obviously there was a breakdown in communication or rezoning issues or both ..."

and you reply "you know I have FB friends who are professional planners, right?"

"pro planners? in what regard ..?"

and in jumps a fellow Cybubs/FB friend to help school him

(he's a professional musician, not a planner)
 

Veloise

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You share a wacky news article on FB ...

Farm sued by township, neighbor who claim it is a ‘public nuisance’

... and a friend chimes in with "busybodies... stirring up crap that's none of their business ...
okay so obviously there was a breakdown in communication or rezoning issues or both ..."

and you reply "you know I have FB friends who are professional planners, right?"

"pro planners? in what regard ..?"

and in jumps a fellow Cybubs/FB friend to help school him

(he's a professional musician, not a planner)
Another Cyburbian chimed in. ROFL.

Musician friend: crickets
 
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DVD

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You stop at the local store and talk to the guy about parking requirements for the new business he wants to set up.
 

michaelskis

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When your spouse and kids get angry because when you are on vacation you think that 10 blocks is walkable, you stay in a neighboring community near the commuter rail, you keep stopping to take photos of good infrastructure, you have already memorized where the local restaurants in relation to particular attractions, and finally, when you have an alley on your 'must see' list because it is the oldest continuously inhabited residential street in America.

*All happened with last summer's vacation
 

Faust_Motel

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When people want to talk about affordable housing and energy efficient housing but can't get over it also HAVING to be large-lot single-family and you just laugh and laugh....

Also when you are no longer capable of having a polite conversation with the tiny house enthusiast crowd.
 

RandomPlanner

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Mother-in-law: "Why is housing so expensive here?

Me: monologues for 20 minutes about large lot zoning, lack of production and speculative homebuilders, NIMBYs, preferences for "rustic" housing among local residents, wealthy college students, and a dozen other factors that make a "convergence of suck".
Convergence of suck -- I'm going to have to add this to my often used phrases.
When your spouse and kids get angry because when you are on vacation you think that 10 blocks is walkable, you stay in a neighboring community near the commuter rail, you keep stopping to take photos of good infrastructure, you have already memorized where the local restaurants in relation to particular attractions, and finally, when you have an alley on your 'must see' list because it is the oldest continuously inhabited residential street in America.

*All happened with last summer's vacation
when you google that location and add it to your Notes app under "To Do in PA" for the next time you're in that region. :hug:
 

Planit

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We were in Asheville yesterday and as we were walking between Asheville Brewing & Burial Brewery we encountered a Tactical Urbanism volunteer project. So of course I had to take pictures and talk with the coordinator about the project. Mrs. P stood in the shade while this occurred. It not her first time...
 
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